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Hi Team,
I have a 284 Winchester arriving any day now. I've been pointed in the direction of Reloader 17 being the most optimum powder. I'll be shooting Hornady 162 ELD-M projectiles. I don't feel like spending the $75.00 or so for the Hornady reloading book. Does anyone know of the minimum and maximum load?
Thanks in advance
Plenty of powders other than Re17. Hornady lists Re19 @stagstalker doing same development at moment, he may be able to help you out
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http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle
I used both R17 and 19 but ADI was possibly more accurate in rifles I used
Or. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...px?powderid=25
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I've tested a few powders incl Re17 in my 17 inch barreled 284 with 162 Amax.
Re17 didn't give me any better results than other powders I already used.
H414 and IMR 7828ssc go very well in mine and are generally in better supply that re17.
Also don't forget ADI equivalents.
I'm about to recieve in the next day or so an F-glass rifle with a 284 barrel & 6mmBR barrel and I see the load the seller used for the Winchester 284 was ADI 2209 powder with the Hornady A-Max 162gr bullets.
Powder equivalents - ADI Word Class Powders and Ammunition
Peter
I have 3 x 1 pound containers of RL17 if anyone wants it
Was going to build a 284 but changed direction
Heaps of RL17 available from the wholesaler, even 5lb containers, so don't let that put you off
Greg Duley's published R17 load for a 16" barrel and 162 grn was 56grn for 2750fps.
In my experience with 284s that would be a pretty warm load, to say the least. Start around 52 gn and work up. I’ve found 53-54 gn is safe and accurate load with 160-162sQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I found RE17 will produce higher velocities but also more recoil. I primarily use AR2206H in mine which produces better accuracy and less recoil but I only use 150 gr GK
I've never had any issues with AR2206H / 150 gr GK making stuff dead even with big reds out to 300 mtrs out of a 16 inch barrel
It's good to know there's plenty of RE17 that's come in because it was non existent for a few years where only a couple of tins would be shipped in but i have heard through a few people but yet to confirm it myself that RE17 is more temperature sensitive.
My 284 with 17” barrel using rel 17 and 162 ELDX hit pressure at 52 - 52.5gr. That’s with a throat OAL of 2.445” for the 162 ELDX. At pressure it was giving me about 2750fps. Wouldn’t shoot them accurate until backed off to 50.5gr for about 2620fps. Apparently the ELDX gives more pressure due to the thicker jacket. I’m gonna try the 160TMKs next and then maybe the ELDM and Berger VLDs. I’ll be happy with anything over 2600 from the 17” barrel and 160 projectiles anyway. Energy beyond what i would shoot a deer at.
I used 150 Partition and R17 and 19 in 280 ai and 284, was the thumper on animals.
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I'd be fairly cautious about 56 Gns, even 53 gns is likely to be around 70,000 psi, which is pretty hot, the Q/L data for 56 gns says 90,000 psi which is well beyond "hot"
Cautions above should be noted. Here is the source.
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Got up to 56gr in mine, seated long though which makes a difference. 19" barrel broke 2900 settled on 2750 though, the 2900 was an "oh sh#$" moment
I am going to load my 284 with 2209 as I have a good supply and figure with the 19" bbl I can still generate good speeds. Anyone else on here using 2209?good results?
52 gains 2209 with 160 tmks doing 2810fps out of a 22 inch barrel. Any more and accuracy drops off.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
The 2750 load I settled on was 2209 at max adi book charge weight
Use 2209 for bush loads with 145gn or 154 gn pills. Around 53 - 54 gns 2209 gave best/safe results in my 284s. You'd need to back off load a bit for 160 - 162 gn pills I'm guessing
Quick load data I posted was at factory lenght and seating well out for a longer action will make quite a bit of difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
My experience with 2209, is that it is a bit slower, but super temp stable and always easy to find an accurate load for.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
RL16 would be worth a look as well meant to be more temp stable than 17.
h414/win760 gives good velocity and consistency
You got yours up and running yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
I have a few 154 SST if you want to try them.
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Gunworks put it in the post today so have it this weekend! Bloody excited. Will pm you for those SSTs mate, appreciate it. Taken GWHs advice and am going to try Sierra 150gks as well.
2209 will be fine if you want to use the 150 gamekings but RL17 is the fruit with 162elds. A little under 54gns with a CBTO of 2.525" is a sweet load for my rig...Naturally work up and you may also have to neck turn if you have the tighter chamber...Good luck its a sweet caliber
Thanks to all. Brilliant info! I'm having a 25.5inch barrel put on a sako 75 action. I'll post my results.
Pills/loads I’ve mentioned are seated way longer than SAAMI. To get best out of 284 u want them hanging way out there..... COL 3.00 to 3.175. Assuming your chamber throat will allow
Very impressed guys, these things are wild. I found a 6.5x284 case from when I had a Savage F class. Shot a 6" 3 shot group at 1100m with that thing. Rolled the case around in my hand a bit and noted how awesome it is and how odd it is we don't use them much. Quite surprised by these 162 Amax velocities from such short barrels. You have a very short handy rifle capable of knocking stuff over way out there. Very cool.
Awesome! Do you know what the max load is mate?
That is spot on info. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Yes agreed... I believe the 284 is becoming very popular amongst international competitors, and placing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
I hope so, then Lapua will start making brass for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerardo
No sizing or neck turning required!
how much would you like for it mate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo
