Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Alpine Terminator


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 46
Like Tree55Likes

Thread: Reloading Range Brass

  1. #31
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Thames
    Posts
    16
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I do it a bit different. Assuming brass is range pickups (or aka road kills), I deprime first using a Harvey deprimer, then into the SS tumbler to get rid of any grot that could end up in my dies. Once clean you can choose a couple of paths.

    For a newby reloader I wouldn't stress about annealing, it's a function that can come later in your reloading career. Unless it's done properly I rate it as a waste of time although stopping necks splitting has merit. Likewise meticulously uniforming primer pockets, although I use Lapua brass which generally doesn't need uniforming.

    I would definitely sort into brands, but I load to get the very best result possible and this is one step that helps achieve optimum results.

    My own experience is FC is shite, irregular weights, flash holes punched off centre.
    Thanks Zimmer. What do you use on the primer pockets?

  2. #32
    Member Micky Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Geraldine
    Posts
    22,858
    me I just give a quick whirl with the case deburring tool.
    shananah likes this.
    75/15/10 black powder matters

  3. #33
    Member zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    4,986
    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie8008 View Post
    Thanks Zimmer. What do you use on the primer pockets?
    I used to go full on, uniforming the pp depths. With good brass eg Peterson, Lapua it is not necessary. I still debur the flash hole from inside. Most cheaper brass has the flash hole punched which can leave jagged edges. Deburring them is a once only step. There are tools to do this, I have even used a drill bit lightly turned by hand. It doesn't need much. Shine a wee torch inside and see if it is an issue.
    As far as uniforming depths for hunting ammo I would not bother. Unless your salvaged brass is really bad.

    There is a lot in priming but for hunting ammo going to extreme target grade steps is not necessary, or something you can progress to as you get more experienced or inclined.

    If I do need to uniform depths I have an adjustable tool made by 21st Century. You need to be careful and not cut excessively, just uniform. I had a bad experience with a Sinclair tool. I bought 2 at once. One cut to a reasonable depth whilst the other cut far deeper than the first. Sinclair refunded me on that one. I just use the reamining one to clean pockets, not to cut them.

    Your group looks good and as MD pointed out a good load and projectile.
    I have never tried 2206H. Have a part tin of it's ancestor, 2206, still left, but have always used BM2. Nothing wrong with 2206H though.
    Micky Duck and Cookie8008 like this.

  4. #34
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2023
    Location
    waimakau
    Posts
    2,668
    I've got a bit of american eagle fmj ammo. It has the primers crimped in. I just deprime and I've got one of those lyman tools that's a cylinder that screws apart and there's different bits inside it that screw into the handles. I just use the primer uniforming cutter and that does a good job. Ive tried my lee case neck deburer it kind of works but lyman tool works better. As above I wouldn't worry too much about the annealing, 223 doesn't seem to be prone to splitting necks and if you use a collet die your working the brass even less..
    Cookie8008 likes this.
    may be sarcastic may be a bad joke

  5. #35
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Hastings
    Posts
    2,404
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I do it a bit different. Assuming brass is range pickups (or aka road kills), I deprime first using a Harvey deprimer, then into the SS tumbler to get rid of any grot that could end up in my dies. Once clean you can choose a couple of paths.

    For a newby reloader I wouldn't stress about annealing, it's a function that can come later in your reloading career. Unless it's done properly I rate it as a waste of time although stopping necks splitting has merit. Likewise meticulously uniforming primer pockets, although I use Lapua brass which generally doesn't need uniforming.

    I would definitely sort into brands, but I load to get the very best result possible and this is one step that helps achieve optimum results.

    My own experience is FC is shite, irregular weights, flash holes punched off centre.
    Why would anybody be keen to size work hardened brass. Each to their own.

  6. #36
    Member Micky Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Geraldine
    Posts
    22,858
    in 30 years of reloading I can 100% hand on heart say I have never annealed brass and have discarded for split necks less than 20 cases over that time....
    your milage may vary,but its just not a needed to do thing for me.
    7mm Rem Mag and Cookie8008 like this.
    75/15/10 black powder matters

  7. #37
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2023
    Location
    waimakau
    Posts
    2,668
    been reloading about the same time and only recently bought an annealing machine as I was getting split necks on a new caliber, prior to that Id heard a lot about it but never needed to. Some of my x55 brass would be past 8 reloads...
    may be sarcastic may be a bad joke

  8. #38
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Marlborough
    Posts
    843
    Been reloading rifle cartridges for about 43 years. Like others have never annealed a case. Have had the odd split neck over the years but have experienced this with brand new factory ammo a few times so go figure. Had a few case head separations because of the 'lets reload this case one more time' scenario. A bit like using a bit of candle wax to hold shotgun case crimps shut because they've been loaded a few times. I'm not a benchrest shooter so can't see myself starting to anneal cases any time soon. Each to their own.
    Micky Duck, Cookie8008 and m101a1 like this.

  9. #39
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    2,456
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    My own experience is FC is shite, irregular weights, flash holes punched off centre.
    True but I went through a large (free) batch of it in my RemVS varmint rifle over the years. 27.5grs of W748 behind a 53gr HP Hornady. Shot like a demon, any time it was over 1/2", it was probably my fault. Never even annealed it and still got well over ten, possibly even over 15 reloads out of them before they started splitting
    Micky Duck and Cookie8008 like this.

  10. #40
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    NI
    Posts
    12,049
    When Im resizing mixed .223 brass I can always tell when I strike a Federal. It's harder. More resistance. Still use it though.
    Micky Duck and Cookie8008 like this.
    Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing, and right-doing, there is a field. I will meet you there.
    - Rumi

  11. #41
    Member Micky Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Geraldine
    Posts
    22,858
    the S&B we had in .308 was far and away the worst brass Ive struck...actually ripped arm off press resizing...made to do it if too much pressure. threw it all away after one go....
    75/15/10 black powder matters

  12. #42
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Location
    Ngaio, Wellington
    Posts
    316
    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie8008 View Post
    Thanks 6x47. I'm loading (& keeping separate) the different makes of brass but was thinking that was just to check the difference in accuracy. I'm running 25 gr of ADI 2205H with 55 Gr Hornady SXXP projectiles which gave awesome results at 100m.Attachment 238163
    Top 3 in group before adjusting scope with gave me the answer I was looking for.
    That's good shooting in anyone's book!
    Cookie8008 likes this.

  13. #43
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Thames
    Posts
    16
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Shields View Post
    That's good shooting in anyone's book!
    Thanks Hugh. That's why I stayed with the previous owners recipe although it seems I typed that on my cellphone & without my glasses! It is ADI AR2206H with Hornady 55gr SPSX. Cheers.

  14. #44
    Member Micky Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Geraldine
    Posts
    22,858
    its that close to my old go to recipe its not funny...and given that I was using milserp brass,its for all intents n purposes ,the same load.
    stick with it,its a keeper.
    75/15/10 black powder matters

  15. #45
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Thames
    Posts
    16
    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    its that close to my old go to recipe its not funny...and given that I was using milserp brass,its for all intents n purposes ,the same load.
    stick with it,its a keeper.
    Will do Micky Duck. I previously used Benchmark 2 for 223 but see I can use it for 303 also. 150 gr projectiles.
    Micky Duck likes this.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. 223 brass, anyone want them for reloading?
    By smidey in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 17-11-2013, 08:32 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!