Anyone had experience using a short barreled 6.5-284? Thinking 18” using 140eldms. I see people on here getting mean results from the short barreled 284 so maybe someone has done the 6.5 aswell?
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Anyone had experience using a short barreled 6.5-284? Thinking 18” using 140eldms. I see people on here getting mean results from the short barreled 284 so maybe someone has done the 6.5 aswell?
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Yep a few people have tried a short barrel 6.5-284......
Its a waste of time, better off running an 18" 6.5CM id say.
PRC goes good @20 inches.
A mate of mine runs the 6.5 284 @20 inches, I think he is getting around the 2940fps with 140 bergers
Yea thought about the creed but building it on a sako Av so waste of a long action doing the creed. Other option could be 6.5-06 or ai version
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6.5-06 or AI is still the 6.5-284 ballistics/case capacity....really no difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antwalsh
If you want a 6.5mm stick with the 6.5-284 but in at least a 22" barrel.
If you want a 6.5mm in an 18" bbl, then do what GWH recommends and use a 6.5 Creedmoor...just seat the 147gr ELD-M out right out (get the reamer in 6.5 Creed with a long throat).
I've done most over the years 6.5/06 and the AI version also 6.5x 284 which I think was either a 18 or 20" I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antwalsh
I really struggled to get the seed I thought I should.
I now have a .260 which is the way I would go it's even better on a long action as you can seat the long 143 or 147 way out.
The Creedmoor is a good option but I would still go .260 as I can get 2880 fs from a 20" and 2810fps from my son in-law 18" and the 284 I had only just made it over 2800 with the 130 Nosler AB although that was with 2217 and it probably would have gone better with RL26.
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Mate's one was 20" and he was getting 2750 fps not trying too hard with 140 grainers.
6.5x284 .... great 6.5 round but would be totally counter productive to then chop the bbl ?? As others have said if you must have short bbl then go Crudmore or 260
260 Improved 30° maybe @Uplandstalker @Mathias ???
Though if you've got the long action to play with a 6.5*55 or the BJAI version?!? Relatively cheap Lapua brass for the reliable old Swede or its' hot-rodded brethren?
260imp 30, issue is dies. Guy in the US that has them is hopeless to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
Long action...go the 6.5x55
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No experience in the 284 but have a 16" 6.5 Creedmoor and love it. About 2500 ft/s with a 129gr projectile and a mild load of 2209. Around 2700 ft/s doable with a 120gr pill and factory ammo was doing 2600 ft/s with a 129gr SST. If you want more speed, RL17 is something to look at which I will in the future.
The 120gr pill out of a 16" 6.5CM barrel gives you literally the same ballistics as a 175gr pill coming out of a 22" 308 barrel within 1000m...
Yeah....... but which one is gonna hit you harder?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaSa
If you have a long action I would rather go 6.5x55AI. Cheap lapua brass too.
Why not just go .284?
The .308 by around 100% BUT irrelevant as you, Antwalsh and I are smart enough not to try to shoot anything living at that distance :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 257weatherby
Could go 284 but already have 280ai which would pretty much be the same thing. Looking to do something different hence the short barreled 6.5-284. Could go creedmoor but the 6.5-284 has a greater case capacity which I would assume would lead to increased velocity as appose to the creedmoor. 6.5x55 is another good option tho! More just after anyone who has a short barreled 6.5-284 or even 6.5x55 to see what sort of speeds one could expect from the shorter barrels..
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@25 /08 IMP mostly wrote the answer to your question based on his experience:Quote:
Originally Posted by Antwalsh
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I've done most over the years 6.5/06 and the AI version also 6.5x 284 which I think was either a 18 or 20" I'm not sure.
I really struggled to get the speed I thought I should.
I now have a .260... as I can get 2880 fs from a 20" and 2810fps from my son in-law 18" and the (6.5x)284 I had only just made it over 2800 with the 130 Nosler AB although that was with 2217 and it probably would have gone better with RL26.
Were you using straight 260 or ai?Quote:
Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP
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He's had both the speeds he is mentioning their are 260 143 eldx and 142 lrab I imagine . A buddy's just sold his 6.5x55 that was 140sst doing 2650 2209 I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antwalsh
nice way to pass the time wondering what cartridge to go for. Straight 284 be similar but different application and prolly be a good 200 to 300fps behind your full length 280ai?Quote:
Originally Posted by Antwalsh
30/284? Would make use of the short barrel nicely I would think.
I've had both but now use .260 you do get a bit more speed from the AI but at best 100fps maybe less and then there is the mucking around of fire forming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antwalsh
Just stick to a standard 20" .260 or Creedmoor https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ca4bba21d9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d241f78610.jpg
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30/284 would be an interesting one, should go really well in the shorter barrel too.
Go the 260, @superdiver had one that performed really well with a short barrel. So do a few others. The 6.5x284 doesnt tend to respond well to the chop. You could go 30/284 which has been done here but then you could also chop a 300wsm and put a can on it, or a 300saum if you like wild cats. Both known to respond well to short barrels, and then youd still have an extremely capable rifle down range. I'm currently taking the alternative route and building a 24" 284 to try and chase every last fps out of the cartridge. (But that's just me) alot of guys like the bush pig style of rifle and they serve a purpose. At the end of the day everyone will have an opinion, trust your gut and enjoy it
This might sound a bit boring but the the good old 308 goes good short. At 16 inches I have shot 2 goats with one shot @450 yards. 18 inches 650 yards is no problem to drop an animal with a 168 eldm
Depending on what the goal is?
What about a 6.5 PRC? Is that not basically a magnum version of a 6.5 creeedmore?
Had 2x death machines now(18" bbl 260). Both chucked 140eldms @ 2730-2770 with 43.5gr-45.5gr 2209. Both are owned by other forum members now and I doubt they would sell them back or on as they were good to 750yds~ on a red deer sized animal. Don't overcomplicate things trust me
Yip you are right you won't be getting that 18".260 back, mind you nor will I now my son in-law has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
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Go for it man. Variety is the spice of life. With the heavier bullets you absolutley will get better velocity than a 6.5 creed or 260. It's just physics.
I would be looking at rl16 as a good powder to work with
I've had a 16" barreled 6.5x284 for 6 years now its my go to rifle, have shot 4 nice 8 point Sika with it. 143gn ELDs at 2750fps 130gn ABs at 2800fps consistently groups 1/2, far more efficient than my18" 6.5 CreedmoorQuote:
Originally Posted by GWH
A 18" .260 will more than equal those speeds and I'm picking with less powder as well.
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That's pretty underwhelming for a cartridge of that size that brass is probably rare/muck around sizing down or expensive with an overwhelming amount of powder .....Quote:
Originally Posted by 300MAG
But kudos for the Sika that says more about you than the rifle top show