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    1st of all, save cash and read an online PDF of Richard Lee's Modern Reloading: http://marvinstuart.com/firearm/Manu...%20-%20ocr.pdf

    Second, thoroughly digest said manual.

    Third, buy a Lee Loader. Bear in mind these will not full length resize bottleneck rifle cartridges, but you will get one or two more bangs out of a spent cartridge from the same rifle.

    Fourth, practise. This is the man himself (Richard Lee, RIP) loading up 30-06 on the Lee loader:



    Bear in mind that volume does not change so long as density is constant, but weight (which is subject to gravity, not a universal force) does vary by an infinitesimal amount.

    If bullets shoot accurate, deer die fast and rifle go boom every time trigger is pulled, be happy!

    DO NOT OVERTHINK IT

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    Cheers caver. Only problem is the lee loader doesn't come in my calibres. .
    My next question is what type of dies do I need to be using. Do I need just neck sizing or full length sizing dies

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    You need a full lenght sizing die.
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    Will add if you are going to buy a kit try and stretch a bit further than the lee.
    The most important and expensive part of any kit is the press and the cast alloy lee one is a bit weak.
    Second hand steel/iron presses come up from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    You need a full lenght sizing die.
    Yes, but...
    If you’re using the same rifle you can probably get away with neck sizing for 4-5 reloads.
    After that the shoulder of the case will likely need a bump.
    All depending of course, on how hot your loads are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remmodel7 View Post
    Thank you all for the responses. Im looking forward to the new challenge. Hopefully I can't scape together enough bits and pieces to start loading.
    My aim is to produce hunting ammo capable of moa or better at this stage capable of equaling it being factory ammo.
    I think I will probably end up with one of the lee kits initially as they seem like a good place to start and should do everything I need. I will keep an eye out for second hand gear or buy better gear if I seen necessary in the future.
    I like the idea of a mentor and hopefully can stumble across someone and will definitely be picking people's brains on here and reading a lot
    You are welcone to shoot across to Te Puke for a look mate. What cal are you loading for? Might have dies here already to get you started
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    I had one of the Lee Aniversary sets and have replaced nearly all of it with RCBS items as I wasnít happy with the consistency I was getting with the Lee setup. If you canít afford the RCBS kit, spend some time on here and the yellow site, as you can get some good deals on single items.
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    I know it is a big investment to go for the likes of rcbs but once you catch the bug you wonít regret the purchase. Iíve almost paid mine off in ammo produced in less than 6 months.

    Borrowing less used items, things like headspace gauges and comparators will save you money.

    Annealing looks like a total pain in the.. so good luck with that.

    Lee are good for small cheap items like trimming tools which are easily replaced if they fail on you

    And on a final note, a mate to tell you when to quit and be happy with your load development will save you a fortune.

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    It all depends on what you want to do, you can certainly bankrupt yourself on gear.
    Im now 44 years old i think, started reloading when I was 11 or 12. To this day Ive never annealed a cased, polished a case, used more than a press for priming, never used a bullet comparator, never used an electronic powder scale or measurer, no longer use neck sizers. And so on.
    I can still knock out a half inch group if the rifle wants to play the game.

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    AMEN to that......and some of us swear by LEE equipment......

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    It's interesting to see Lee say you can reload without using a set of calipers. A top Mitutoyo set will cost about the same as the entire Lee kit. I use them all the time to check cartridge headspace (base to 0.400" datum on the shoulder) case length, case base to ogive and cartridge overall length (to tip). Presumably the Lee kit uses standard minimum SAAMI dimensions for every load ? That might be why people are talking about only getting 4 or 5 loads per case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventy Six View Post
    It all depends on what you want to do, you can certainly bankrupt yourself on gear.
    Im now 44 years old i think, started reloading when I was 11 or 12. To this day Ive never annealed a cased, polished a case, used more than a press for priming, never used a bullet comparator, never used an electronic powder scale or measurer, no longer use neck sizers. And so on.
    I can still knock out a half inch group if the rifle wants to play the game.
    Perfectly put, you can overthink anything and make it way more complicated than it need be. All the fancy stuff will turnout pretty very very consistent ammunition but 99% of the time you will never notice the difference it makes as the biggest influences on accuracy will always be atmospheric and human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagheera View Post
    It's interesting to see Lee say you can reload without using a set of calipers. A top Mitutoyo set will cost about the same as the entire Lee kit. I use them all the time to check cartridge headspace (base to 0.400" datum on the shoulder) case length, case base to ogive and cartridge overall length (to tip). Presumably the Lee kit uses standard minimum SAAMI dimensions for every load ? That might be why people are talking about only getting 4 or 5 loads per case.
    that would ONLY be the case if you full length resized right down hard....IF HOWEVER you partial length resized it would not be so.......well thats what 30 years of reloading for loose chambered rifle with hot loads taught me.
    learnt it out of nosler manual so its good enough for this K1W1.

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    Make sure you have a tidy reloading bench with everything in its place....





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    I have two benches for my stuff it has taken 50 + years to gather all the gear and still
    need more it is never ending be warned
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