Thread: Stupid Question. bare with me please

Ok you win.

Originally Posted by Taranaki Shooter

Ok you win.

This isn't about winning at all. I've been contemplating what to contribute to this thread today when I haven't been distracted by work demands. The single biggest thing I've learned about reloading in recent times is statistical significance. Thanks to YouTube and some excellent content creators this is now more widely known about. Here's a particularly good podcast/video that elaborates in a way that's digestible to a fairly wide audience:
https://youtu.be/QwumAGRmz2I?si=NjPt2qRQ5nlQ6YMN

There's been a lot of fantastic discussions on here recently around statistical validity by a lot of people who are interested in the technical aspects of shooting and reloading.

Originally Posted by Taranaki Shooter

Ok you win.

It's not a competition. If we want to learn more collectively and get to the "right answer" we need to question conventional wisdom and use data in meaningful ways.

You may have a process that works genuinely wonderfully. That might be useful to all of us. However I'm not going to accept that just cos you say so. Provide some meaningful data and we can have a look at it.

I've put up plenty of data showing that 3-shot SD doesn't mean anything.

I don't know what you are asking quite frankly. I don't bother with SD data. It is meaningless to me. I have a system and it works. I think I understand why your data doesn't give you the results I get and clearly you don't. I'm fine with that. As you don't have QL I can't walk you through it easily. I have done my best to explain it but I can tell its gone over everyone's head, well bar No.3 he gets it. You just keep doing what you are doing if that works for you.

I have said enough. If you read everything I have written in this thread you will understand the process, then assuming you have got the right powder you will get results. I hope that helps some of you. Or they can accept what you say that its all a waste of time and do nothing. That is entirely up to those who read this thread.

I have been as respectful as I possibly can be, I disagree with a lot what has been written in this thread and I have no need to change anyone's mind. I don't think I could.

It's shame its like this, I wasn't prepared for that.

@Mroach - glad to hear you're enjoying reloading! It's a great way to enhance your enjoyment of your shooting and possibly hunting.

I have a 6.5 Creedmoor in a Howa 1500. I've shot a whole load of different combinations in it and I found that Re26 is an interesting but fickle option. You can get high speeds out of it but it was inconsistent for me in regards to velocity and groups. The best combination I tried was in Lapua SRP brass but that only gave the same velocity as I could get with Re16 so there wasn't really any point pursuing that combination.

Re16 is a really good powder for the 6.5CM. It tends to give a little more speed than the equivalent amount of AR2209 and I've had superb consistency velocity wise and also grouping. The biggest problem with it currently is the exorbitant price and erratic availability.

Overall it seems the wisest choice these days is to try 2209 to see if it gives you the speed and precision you're looking for in your rifle. If so, but a decent supply of it to keep you shooting for as long as possible.

Another potentially good option might also be Winchester Staball 6.5 - I never tried it myself as it used to be more expensive than ADI and similarly priced to the Alliant powders (remember those not so long ago days?).

As far as overall length goes you won't go wrong following the Hornady manual and sticking to 2.800"(71.1mm) with the 147 Eld-M. They aren't particularly sensitive to seating depth so it's really down to seeing which powder your rifle/barrel combo likes.