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No bird food for this one either.
KH
Sometimes you just get lucky...
Last winter i had quite a few caught stoats eaten in the traps [mainly 150s and a couple of 200s] and of course it is the back half that is eaten including the tail, ggrrr.
Today i was clearing a trap that had caught a stoat a few days ago and there lying beside the trap was a complete stoat tail. I thought you silly old bugger, you cut the tail off last weeks stoat and forgot to bag it... imagine my surprise when i opened the trap lid there is a stoat head and shoulders only.. what ever had eaten the trapped stoat had chewed off the tail and left it !!!
Nice work on the stoats Guys
I have given up trying to get cats to put their head in a Timms or Possum Master I have reverted to cages got three cats that were decimating our Quail flocks in a couple of garden areas - shiny new steel or rusty old steel they still work well still catching a few rats, amazing how they like to scramble up the same old ponga trunk just 16 on the spreadsheet so far this year
@BillyXmas546 has been telling me for some time to use a de-hooking gripper when handling rotten animals from traps I had thought that a good quality pair of gloves would keep me safe
I recently got a serious skin infection on my inner thigh likely from gloves rubbing on my trousers always washed my gloves but did not always wash my trousers - it required a some serious antibiotic treatment both internal and external
So I have bought a set of Burnsco hook grippers and it does feel a lot safer I will also start using disinfectant on my hands when I use my phone
Pic of a possum I found in a trap yesterday a week in a trap is a long time at this time of the year YUK I removed the colour so it didnt put you off your breakfast
Stay safe Guys - H&S 101
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Nice work on the cats. I figure any cat that doesn't have a collar is feral
I remember when this report came out:
https://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz...-grey-warbler/
Every week we have pieces of bread turning up in our property. One of our immediate neighbours is putting it out.
The Riroriro - along with the Shining Cuckoo - are favourites here. Considering a 50% reduction in terms of the effect of conventional predators, does anyone here then keep the introduced bird population in check, or at least do nothing to encourage them?
That sort of thing would not be popular though:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-...EZGPOQGRQZOHA/
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...nd-distressing
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/690...ed-in-auckland
I suspect that in time Predator Free 2050 will need to extend to include a reduction in introduced birds - beyond the Mynas, Magpies etc.
I wonder how accepting the suburban environmental warriors will be of that ?
Well Puffin
Only light shines in darkness.
I know there's agenda benders happening! What was once right is now spoken against.
Still some just keep doing what's right in the first place. Remember Puffin! the first banana out of the box is the one they skin.
KH
Well Puffin, I timed out on the edit, so repost.
In part answer to the first study, I wouldn't base or read to much into it or place to much faith in the findings.
Also you wouldn't even apply one set of findings, If true to the all.
But of course they will try and sometimes it does happen! because the blind are leading blind.
Very hard to tell a man who has natural sight he's..... I'll move to were the tin foil hats won't matter.
For example, we had a move 3 years ago and there was no bird life to speak of.
There was a large rat population, which I started into at least 3 weeks before the shift.
My wife at the same time put out a feeder nothing happened for weeks.
Even after we had moved in, then one day sparrows turned up then black birds and thrushes and that went on for a few days or a week, I can't remember the exact time, then the first Tui, a few days later a Bellbird and then the pigeons.
We now also have a large number of sparrows at hen feeding time, this hasn't upset the native birds at all.
They have remained and come and go. Mean while the rats have never got a foot hold again.
This is my findings and is true.
Only light shines in darkness.
I know there's agenda benders happening! What was once right is now spoken against.
Still some just keep doing what's right in the first place. Remember Puffin! the first banana out of the box is the one they skin.
KH
This little guy has an attitude. This a new style of trap I'm experimenting with, there is no floor on the trap it sits on the ground -the ground is level with the treadle on the Doc 200 or Doc 250. I'm going to make all my traps this way its a more natural presentation and if something is rotting away in there I don't have to clean it out - just shift the trap
Please click on the link to view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NFP...ew?usp=sharing
Will do Kukuwai
I can't lay claim to this one, but the catching method was passed on with results.
KH
Kukuwai sorry to take so long, I had to go down to the bush to take the pics.
This shows the trap from above with the bait holder on your right.
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The trap on its side sitting on the bait holder, the trap part will be buried to make the treadle level with the ground [all fittings Stainless Steel]
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This shows the hole it sits in
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OK the bait holder, pic 1 shows the cover sitting in its slots plastic mesh stops flies and wasps but lets out the smell.
Pic 2 the cover and bait holder.
Pic 3 the slots, the bait holder can't slide through and hit the treadle as it's stopped by hitting the outside of the hole. See pic 4.
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I made the trap 600mm long to get 2 out of 1200mm but I am going to make it 800mm and get 3 out of 2400mm, I think a longer tunnel catches more critters
Bill, I appreciate the time, explanation and the photos. Thank you.
Question, bait is raw untreated rabbit ? If it is that how long does you bait last even with flies wasps not able to get to it ?
Excellant stuff thanks heaps billy [emoji106]
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Sore head stoat, No1 bait is rabbit also fish, chicken, gutted rat and other mustelids. Time bait lasts is 2/4 days depending on the weather. I went down the lake yesterday hadn't rebaited for 3 to 4 weeks and had a weasel in one of the traps still fresh no-fly eggs on it, can't have been the bait. I try to rebait every 4/5 days. Get your fresh rabbit, gut it, chop off the claws, and put it in the freezer when it's frozen solid I saw it up with a rusty old handsaw - very easy as long as it's gutted.
One weasel was caught using Connovation's Blue Stuff obviously the other using a fish head. We have caught a few mustelids as a bycatch using Blue Stuff for rats and possums.
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I had a couple of weeks off the hill with a skin infection moving from leg to arm – thank God for anti-biotics – I will keep a safe distance from rotten bodies in future. My trapping Mate who also has rotten hog problems had a worse lot of the same skin problem as mine – all over his body. I am reluctant to go near doc250 traps and rotten hogs now – fortunately the one today had a big fresh rat.
I have set a few Timms traps on large wooden ramps lately – 100mm holes in the box – erayz rabbit jerky on the bait rod and a sachet of cat tucker in the bottom of the box – they have not been successful. But the one pictured in a post a few weeks back - mounted on a stump was soon tripped but no victim – I replaced the lure and checked it today – bingo – a big cat – they like Whiskas cat tucker in the Timms and in cages.
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I have tried fish bits [oily sanma fish ] in traps, rubbed on traps, under traps, on top of traps everyway possible and NEVER caught a damn thing.
Hi Time out , What are the blocks with holes drilled [?] in them where you have the eggs pls ? I have had the shits from handling dead stoats i reckon. I wear thick leather gloves and always carry hand sanitizer now, cheers, K.
I use fish flavored cat tucker sachets – or sometimes sardines in a cage – fish seems to be a strong lure.
I made the wood block with holes to hold the three ping pong balls – but they blow around in a strong wind. I should clean them out and stick to real eggs. I sometimes take chicken necks for lure as they are lower cost compared to erayz – but always have some erayz in my pack. My main target is hogs so both chicken necks and erayz work fine for rats and hogs.
I make an egg cradle out of nails to put my egg or eggs in as my eggs quickly freeze expand and crack if they are in contact with the ground esp the high country traps. They do eventually freeze /crack but just seem to last a bit longer if elevated.
@sore head stoat just a note on the fish.
Ive been putting smoked snapper bones from the frames and wings in my traps for several years now.
Only in the snapper season obviously, but i have found them to be a great bait. Even long after the flys & ants have eaten all the meat, the bones retain a strong smell and keep catching.
I would rate them as the best long lasting bait I use. Interesting how everyone's experiences are different. Different sites, different targets i guess.
Happy trapping fellas.
All the input on this thread is outstanding !!
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What kukuwai said about the input, outstanding.
I would love to put smoked snapper bones in my traps...but i aint caught a snapper for years lol. Funnily enough i am off to Pelorus tomorrow so that might all change, fingers crossed.
I will be trying smoked snapper frames :thumbsup:
@sore head stoat What about buying some cheap fish frames form the fish shop and smoking them? I'd say any fish frame would do. Often takeaways fillet their own fish so maybe a cheap supply too? :)
Buying fish frames... Its gotta be way cheaper than what i spent on catching a few snapper, but not as much fun LOL.
Most takeaways down here use rig [or you may know it as lemonfish ] i would guess, no bones just cartilage.
Snapper frames in brine now, tomorrow they will be smoked.
I would be blimmin astounded if my smoked snapper frames made it to my traps, they look damn delicious to me :yum::yum:
I have been unscrewing Timms traps that are mounted on logs and stumps for years - to replace an apple - I am sick of it!
@BillyXmas546 told me a year or so back to cut a slot in the front of the box to let the bait rod come out - replace the apple - put it back in the box - reset and job done - I am a slow learner but mine are all getting a slice at present - a bit rough but they should last - why dont they make them like that?
Lots of juveniles out there at present - some with just their head left in the trap - also some big well fed Shippies nearby
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Well after reading this thread a week or so ago I set up the cage trap I had by the house, 3 wild cats so far.
Im sure theres another one as the trap is tripping at night, cage shy I guess, am prefeeding an unset timms ( yellow one) trap tonight,
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Two close to the house today.
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Sometimes you just gotta have faith and trust your judgement.
I have a local trap that hasnt caught anything for ages maybe 18 months ? The number of times [as in everytime i go past it ] i have thought i should shift that trap its bloody hopeless, no i say to myself its a good spot.. last night it caught a weasel !!! The last time it caught something was a rat , i found a fresh dead duckling on the road and thought i know where that can go and next morning, mr rat was in the trap.
I have a problem with a DOC 200 trap.
It is catching hhogs but they are getting caught across the face and not being killed out right, 20% would be alive. What have i got wrong. The only thing i can think of the animal is coming across the treadle and not approaching straight on to the treadle . Would making the hole bigger to the trap chamber be of use ? Currently the entrance into the trap isnt in line with the entrance to the trap chamber, should i make it so the animal doesnt have to do a dog leg in the entrance chamber. Sorry i am shit at computers and cant post a photo. All my other DOC 200s i have no problems with and this one i have made identically to the others.
So the hog has a sore head as well, nice.
Seriously, I get a few like that, they set the trap off to quick! by sniffing as they go with the head or spines being first to pressure the plate.
Just take a sticker with you and finish the hog off.
You could open the second mesh hole bigger, some of mine will take a big kitten.But it may not always help either.
Nice having a plate that triggers well, I wouldn't be to concerned, hedgepigs are just part of it with the doc box.
The original size entrance that most of these come with! is never big enough to be a versatile unit, a little snipping always made mine take other pestie.
With the odd one held by the spines or head.
KH
It’s good to adjust a Timms trap to trip with a “gentle” slap on the side - the sensitivity of the trigger action can be adjusted by bending the bait rod where it contacts the cross rod. Bending it toward the front of the trap will make the release action more sensitive. If the trap has a sensitive set – a rat should trip the trap and take a ride to the top of the box – if he is going to steal your apple, then best that you catch him or he will be back for the next one.
I checked this one yesterday and found that the trap was gone – Buggar! – so down over the side to see if I could find it – 10m away under the old tree log with a big buck firmly attached.
The red plastic box is getting old, and he ripped out some plastic around a couple of mounting screws – I have never seen that happen with a genuine yellow Timms made by
Stallion Plastics in Palmy.
I have trapped a lot of possums on that stump - they seem to come up the old log from down the gully.
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Hi Pointer.
The SA2 Steve Allan trap is made for feral cats and possums. It is a monster of a trap, not for beginners. Steve Allan has been making traps since way before DOC was in existence. He makes these traps himself and his crew, including his wife Debs.
The SA2 has passed the NAWAC testing for both pests, so it can be used on DOC land.
I stock these traps and currently have over 100 in stock.
My web site is www.deadrat.co.nz Or contact me.
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I trap and import rat/mouse traps from the USA. I buy direct from Kness and Victor factories and pass my good pricing to you.
Hi Time Out. I don't think I have sent you my Flipping Timmy yet. I can do that. I have about 150 in stock. This trap is so easy to use, comes with good wood screws. It is such an approvment to the Timms trap. I've caught over 18 possums in this one trap. It is made in NZ and the designer/manufacturer has a 5 year warranty on all of his yellow traps.
For anyone interested, my prices are very good.
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Hi MSL. Great photo of the Victor Pro.
I import these original Victor traps and sell them at $3.50 each. It's not all about the profit, but saving our native birds. I buy direct from Victor in the USA. What a great trap that lasts a long time. Anyone can buy on my web site. www.deadrat.co.nz [ATTACH]164796Attachment 164798
If anyone needs the yellow paddles for the Victor Pro, just go onto my web site and order them.
I just ask for the cost of the freight.
I sell the Victor Pros and after years of asking Victor factory in the US, they finally let me buy the paddles from them.
I don't use your details or send out emails, so no strings attached. Just free yellow paddles to keep the Victor Pros out there working for you. It's all about the birds, keeping them alive.
www.deadrat.co.nz
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Well well, turns out it was magpies messing with my cat traps and tripping them, caught 2 in the end, they were released under fair play rules.
6 critters from 28 traps this morning (1 rat , 2 weasels, 4 hedgehog) not setting records but chipping away, one of my most successful traps unfortunately educated a lucky critters as the handle jammed against the opposite wall of that happens again Ill take them off.
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The dog then pulled out and bailed a possum right next to the last trap of the day, something I thought I had trained out of her a couple of years ago, however she presented it in such a way I could dispatch it quickly with an undersized crescent resulting in the start of my winter fur bag ang only a mild reprimand, fluff ace herself told off but still happy. ;). . Attachment 164985