some might have heard a Rebel yell and a few Yahoos coming from the Crown Range this morning . . . it was me
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some might have heard a Rebel yell and a few Yahoos coming from the Crown Range this morning . . . it was me
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I think the 260 would have another 8 to 15percent more recoil then a 243win. Its the same case so its just a bigger projectile right.... It is a wind cutting machine. Im running the old nxs 5.5-22x56 with the npr2 reticle. it got glass thats good enough for me. The reticle is not the best when calling corrections with the 5moa wind hashs.:oh noes: But you get there in the end. i find i can only spot shots from 400yards when i muscle the rifle a little. I free recoil so im not the best at spotting my shots. The newer nxs with the moar-t ret would be the go. 833 yards mate. im sure the neighbours were worried.
Do you guys use a kestrel to estimate the wind speed and how much to compensate by? Or you walk your shots to the prey?
I have a kestrel 3500 i think. But the more you use it the better at estimating you get. Its good having the built in pressure ect. Its obviously then put the information into your app. i estimate the direction. Gully networks can be interesting cross winds.
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i have a Kestrel 2500 which mostly stays in the truck but as Tim D said they are a great tool for learning true wind speeds ( but only where you are ) . . . they are of limited use where i am shooting for LR work.
as an example yesterday where i was shooting from Strelok predicted 20 inches of drift to the right with my imputs . . but somewhere on the bullets journey from one hillside to the other the wind was moving in another direction and i needed 30 inches of correction the other way to the left..
shooting across gullies around here you may have an up or down wind, as well as an all over the place wind, all at the same time . . if the animal will co-operate and stay put, fire and adjust
part of the fun ( to me ) is working out how am i going to get around the problem . . get that bullet to connect with that fur ball way out there
shooting LR with a .22lr is very helpful to learn wind skills
i have been doing a little research @Tim Dicko on the 6.5mm 143grn. ELD X bullet at 260Rem velocities, playing with the numbers on Strelok and comparing them with my 87grn. VMax bullet / load i use.
Certainly makes for an interesting comparison but maybe a little depressing for me if i let it . . best not to think of the soooo close shots that would have been good hits if i had a bullet with 50% better BC / half the wind drift of the VMax.
sometime in the near future i will have to rebarrel the tikka, the 6.5s will be on the maybe list.
can i ask why you chose the .260Rem in a sporter profile as your varmint rifle ?
what other calibers / rifles have you tried ?
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Rossi 45 if you look at my rifle i am left handed and dont have alot of choice as to what rifle i buy. as to the barrel contour i do alot of walking. but when i shoot out that barrel id put a 4 contour on to keep it light for my long walks. The 6mm would be more competitive with a higher b.c round to give you more wind cutting. It has a big advantage on spped obviously. I like the 260 ive had it for 2.5years and its done some kms
so your a leftie @Tim Dicko . . or the term i like to use ' one of the Devils children ' that does kinda limit your choices.Quote:
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the Ruger No.1 would be worth a look if you want something different, i have one in .204R and rate them.
we all have our own ideas on the best weight of a walkabout varminter, mine is definitely on the heavier side . . . when i put the miles in over the hills for a days shooting i never feel a heavy rifle is a problem, i welcome it when its time to pull the trigger. Today i added another 3-4 pounds of lead inside the stock for better balance and hoping to get a little better recoil management, have to see how that goes.
i may just rebarrel with another 243, i have loads of cases etc, maybe a faster twist . . . watching a couple PRS shooters today and one of them said something like we only shoot out to 1000yrds for 20% of the shots so we dont put all of our energy / focus on it . . which i kinda have to watch myself doing, concentrating on the very LR when most is inside 500 yards and i dont need the razzle dazzle bullets etc
I am a lefty, better looking and more intelligent i say....... It does and im not such a ruger fan. They are solid and accurate shooters but not my cup of tea. For a truck gun heavy is sweet as. for long distance walking keeping it under 5kg overall is important. When you are pulling the trigger weight is your mate.
Yeah go 243 or 6mm xc 260 and get a reamer to suit projectiles you are running. any thing with work a. I watch some of the prs shooting and follow the gears they are using. If you focus futher out it is good practice at all ranges. The higher the b.c the less effort you need to put into wind calls. Direction is the most important factor with the wind. not strength obviously. Bryan Litz has some interesting videos.
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Are you saying that you shot a rabbit at that distance? If so, that is bloody amazing!Quote:
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here's some numbers for ya @MB . . . the bullet started at over 3000ft per second, arrived at the Rabbit 1.25 seconds later doing just 1350ft per second, plenty of time to wait for the hit & watch it get knocked head over bum a few times rolling down the hill, ya just gotta love those VMaxsQuote:
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Hi all, maybe the wrong thread but I have a 22-204 with loading gear and data that I dont need anymore, PM me if you want any details.
i'm keen to see pics etc @stickle7 . . put it up and lets see what you haveQuote:
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that is one very cool lookn rifle setup . . . R
I've just got back from a 4 day private land deer and varminting trip with another forum member.
Absolutely epic trip with good numbers of deer, goats, rabbits and magpies taken care of.
I drilled a magpie at 256 yards with my 223, which I was very happy with.
I witnessed a hare taken at 470 yards with a 6.5C/143 eldx which impressed me.
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My new pb of 215 meters with my 223 using 55 grain Speer tnt handloads.
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well done @FatLabrador . . look forward to seeing more PersonalBests in the future
good one @GWH . . . a good property and with someone who is showing you some Longer shots
it rained, it blew . . . but ya gotta go for a walk on your day off, 131yrds longest shot with .22lr PowerPoints
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@rossi.45 looking at giving this extended .22 shooting a go and currently in the process of getting geared up.
What size gong would you recommend for practice? 8 inch? I"m hoping ultimately to get out to 300 if my scope has enough adjustment.
Cheers
Yesterday off the balcony into the Orchard probably no more than 20 meters.
good on ya @wsm junkie . . . look forward to seeing your progress.Quote:
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what sort of setup have you got at the moment ?
i like a BIG steel target to catch all of the shots with a small aiming square in the middle . . . spray paint it after every group so you can see the hits as they happen.
engineers off cut bin is where i got mine from . . weld some hooks on it and your good to go.
this is my smaller target . . . but gives you an idea of impacts when the wind is'nt the best at 300 and what size you will need to catch the bullets.
this is from back in the day when i would shoot 5, 10, 20, 30 round groups . . R
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It was actually 501yd / 458m @GWH... :cool:Quote:
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The last two hare sessions have yielded some good results with the 50gr Z-Max in the .223 Super Varmint. Hares at 280m, 275m and two at 332m. Works well as long as I remember to use the correct range units...
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longest hit 217yrds. with .22 subs
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Got out for a quick walk with the new rig.
Longest shot on this hare 154m
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191 yards longest hit today with subs . . . not my best day for making wind calls but still a good walk
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Got treated to some decent bunny territory on Sunday afternoon. Took my 700 VS .223 and my mate his .204 T3 varminter. Started shooting about 4.45 and we gave up before 7.30, more than 90 bunnies later. Closest over 120yds, most 180+ and at least ten over 300yds. Clipped one first shot at 400 and scared other crapless at similar range. Was very pleased with two successive solid hits at 275yds holding 10-12" into the breeze :pacman:
So anyone who claims RCD has been useful needs to have a big re-think.
My first video. Its shit. But its an "effort" nonetheless. I mean, I tried. The light was rubbish, that's the reason, nothing to do with equipment or operator's errors...
Longest bunny: 275m
Longest hare: 266m
Longest fuckin' lucky hare: 360m (technical term: missed)
I did however manage to confirm that the Super Varmint .223 50gr V-Max is high once it goes past 300m, using the old "shoot a post" method. Which means either its even faster than I thought or the BC is higher, so tomorrow if we have bugger all wind I'll drop test it again properly.
We couldn't get the camera to work for the last three hares, too dark. One lucky mongrel got a face on head shot at 180m, and looked like he'd encountered a guillotine. Great fun out shooting with the wife, she's damn good and unfortunate that she didn't get her two long hares recorded due to the darkness.
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good one @Flyblown . . . thanks for that mate
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A nice stroll around the raspberry orchard on a nice warm balmy evening last night with the CZ 452 22lr. Longest shot only 103 yards with subs.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0bf9f70435.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...171fb470ca.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...233fe5c7de.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...59ed5b359c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...26db1a52b6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...543d422c4d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0940ba497f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8df1d08ed9.jpg
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@GWH are they in a brine or just water?
Brine, just salty waterQuote:
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Is there a reason or just personal preference?Quote:
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Brining it sucks all the blood back into the bones somehow. I think it can also help add moisture.Quote:
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I normally always cook it long and slow in a stock anyway, braising basically. Brown each piece in hot pan first then a few hours low and slow in the oven in a stock I make with lots of tasty stuff in it.
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Cool. Cheers, never tried that....normally just wrap in streaky bacon and whack em in the slow cooker:drool:Quote:
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Ha nice, my dish has streaky bacon in it too. It's a bit of work but tastes amaising.Quote:
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