See Ruger has a 17 hornet in their varmint rifles now:pacman:
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See Ruger has a 17 hornet in their varmint rifles now:pacman:
When my 204 MKII burns out, I'd consider one. :)
is that the same as the 17 rem they use in ozzy
don't know , assume its a necked down hornet
Its a 17 hornady hornet. Based on 22 hornet case. 17 Rem is based on a 223 case
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Depending on how expensive it is to feed it may not be worth it.
Being a new round it'll probably be cheaper to both buy ammo and reload for 223 or 204 Ruger.
I guess if you wanted something with almost no chance of ricochets, and no recoil it'd be ok.
Was looking at one last week.
Be cheap to reload.
How much cheaper than 223 or 204 Ruger to reload?
What guns does it come chambered in? Anything nice and small and light weight? Or more like full size rifles (223 and the like)?
Was a savage I looked at.
Dunno but 17 cal bullets can't cost much and there is Bugger all room for powder so that shouldnt cost much either.
Bout 8-10gr powder, so a pound goes a long way... 20gr zmax projectiles purchased in 500 packs are pretty cheap.
Savage, Ruger & CZ chamber the 17 Hornet, not sure who else does, if any?
http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...17/models.html
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What about cases though? Wasn't 22hornet known for terrible case life, is this much better?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Claw
And how much is it to buy cases?
If one of the CZs was not much more than my 452, and you could reload for cheaper than 223 and what 17hmr ammo costs. It'd be pretty sweeeeeet.
Not sure on case life, but brass factory made by Hornady. Some on trade me a few weeks back for $55/50. Zmax 500 packs are $130, so if you get 5 firings per case then you are looking at about 62 cents per round, so a bit more than hmr but from what I have witnessed about twice the effectiveness. CZ527 in 17HH will be the same price as other 527's which means a chunk more than a 452...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
45SOUTH has one on a ruger action and also knows of a few others so will have a much better idea of what to expect with cases etc
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Just talking to a guy with 1. Has more than 10 firings on cases, so based on his costings the per round cost is about 49 cents. 39 cents for components & 10 cents for brass. He said the cases are much better than the old 22 hornet brass...
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I have got one, its a fantastic little round, and fun to shoot, hardly use the .17hmr now,
I had a bit of diffuclty crushing case necks to start out with, and its fiddly to load for, wish the v-max were not flat base as have had the odd one catch seating. Think I am going to get a RCBS seater die that you can seat threw the side of the die.
Mines a savage and it shoots well, but its gone as soon as the .17 hornet in CZ turns up,
Any idea how much it is to reload for?Quote:
Originally Posted by southernman
I assume you have a Savage model 25 thingy, whats the weight of it like?
How much better is it than the 17hmr? Whats the cost of factory ammo?
17 Hornady Hornet is the new commercial round based off the wildcat 17 Ackley Hornet which is a 22 hornet necked down to 17 cal. Will hold around 10-12 grns of powder with a 20 grain v-max/z-max doing around 3700 fps. As Claw said, you should easily get 10+ loads with your brass. N120 is one of the top contenders for the 17AH so I imagine it will be great for the 17 HH also. Sits between the 17HMR and 223. Great little round for those 200yd shots as it is way more certain than the HMR and very economical to shoot. 1kg of powder goes a long way! Rumour has it Anschutz are bringing out a model shortly so that will be sweet! :thumbsup:
Hi beetroot,Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
How much better than the HMR, well heaps in performance, and if you reload about the same cost to load for, I recon I am reloading for less than the cost of HMR, unless I buy a brick of HMR on special, bearing in mind I already had the powder for small bore shotgun and buy projectials in Canada for about 1/2 the cost here.
Yep its a savage walking varmint, its a good shooter, but due to other problems I can not recommend one, stiff bolt, poor ejection, jamming and binding when loading, and to top it of the scope mounts are off center, so far I had to buy windage adjustable mounts, to get it on target. About seven Lbs for weight.
I had a CZ American on order and decided to try the savage as the local firearms store had several, last savage I ever buy.
Ammo in Canada runs about $20-25 Cad depending on store.
If you get the chance to have a go with the .17 hornet you will want one, its buy far the most fun small cal firearm I own, for the record I have (.17hrm, .22 ,.22mag, .204, .222,.223 and .22-250)
I should have the CZ .17 hornet, back here buy Feb/March, :thumbsup:
Yeah I thought those Savages were crap lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by southernman
The CZ would be a beautiful gun. I really don't need a new gun, but I love varmint shooting so there could be one in the works.
So you travel to and from Canada a fair bit?
The 17 Hornady Hornet is not a necked down 22 hornet but is basically a necked down Ackly hornet with a near parallel body. It head spaces on a substantial shoulder so case life would be dependant on the neck being annealed from time to time and that's all. They say that Superformance is the powder one to use.
I must admit, after turning my 223 Rem to 223 Maximus, I'll need another rabbit rifle and this does look good.
Historical Notes:
The 17 Ackley Hornet is simply the 22 Hornet Improved necked down to 17 caliber. It was originated by P.O. Ackley in the early 1950's and he describes this cartridge as one of the most balanced of the 17 caliber cartridges. Although small, it delivers ballistics equal to some of the larger 17 caliber cartridges. It is an effective 200 yard varmint cartridge and is quite accurate. It is normally used in single shot rifles, although the small Sako bolt action was favored by many because it was made to handle rimmed cartridges such as the 22 Hornet or 218 Bee.
General Comments:
The 17 Hornet is a good cartridge for use in settled areas where a mild report and minimum ricochet are desirable characteristics. It is one of the most accurate of the 17 calibers. Its use should be confined to varmint shooting. The standard twist is 1 in 10 inches, the same as most other 17 caliber rifles. Reportedly, IMR 4198 gives the most uniform results, although Ball BL-C2 as well as several of the newer powders should work well.