Wanting to get into possum trapping - looking for tips and advice.

Hello,

I am interested in getting into possum trapping, Im looking for some traps to buy at the moment, what make is the best in ur option? Im looking for something not to expensive, it doesn't need to last for ever when I get more money I'll buy better ones. I have found these ones: http://www.pestcontrolsolutions.co.n...it.html#PESTGO its the first one on the list. Is it a good buy? Also do any of u guys (or girls) have any 2nd hand traps lying around that u don't need or want anymore that u would be keen to get rid of (sell)? Anyone have any advice or tips for possum trapping that u have found work well though ur experiences? What lure works best?

Cheers and thanks in advance.
Nathanael

If the weather is fine I've been using a mixture of 50% flour 50% icing sugar (a lot brighter in colour than flour) and a shake of cinnamon. This seems to work well for me. With your hand smear it up the tree trunk from about shin height to shoulder height. I guess having the larger smear makes it easier to see from a distance etc.

If wet I used a paste made up of the same thing but with a bit of water added. I have this is a squirt bottle that I squirt onto the tree. This just makes everything cleaner as you don't end up with your hands stuck together with all the dried flour mix.

Set your trap about a hand width out from the tree base directly under your flour/paste smear

By nailing your chain end up the trunk a bit you can reduce the amount of leverage that a possum can put on the chain. i.e. when the try and run off it will lift the leg off the ground so they are in 3 wheel drive sooner rather than getting a longer run up.

When you dispatch them by hitting them with the hammer, if you want to try and be a one strike hero, do so at your peril.....I always give them a few more just to make sure they don't wake up!

Good luck and any questions sing out.

agree with keen fella but we often toted a wee tomahawk.the blunt back applies to its head spelt lights out. A warning though.often you grab em by the tail;to stretch em out for the coup de grace.dont grab too close to the base otherwise you may well get ripped by shagnasty claws powered by hefty thigh muscles.had one old cow open my finger from tip to palm like this.
also be aware some resist death like buggery as ive seen on more than one occasion so a few taps may be required.my brothers invention of a club-length of rimu with a leadhead studded knot at one end(dad found out later!ow)saw some very messy kills but a lot more 1st strike success.
foos bait flour&spearmint ,or traps laid directly onto trails and secured with big fencing staples.yes they were gintraps ,nasty bastrds.

Thanks for the replies chaps

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Originally Posted by keen fella

If wet I used a paste made up of the same thing but with a bit of water added. I have this is a squirt bottle that I squirt onto the tree.

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How long does it last in the bottle? I can imagine it would start to get a little unpleasant over time....

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Originally Posted by kotuku

agree with keen fella but we often toted a wee tomahawk.the blunt back applies to its head spelt lights out. A warning though.often you grab em by the tail;to stretch em out for the coup de grace.dont grab too close to the base otherwise you may well get ripped by shagnasty claws powered by hefty thigh muscles.had one old cow open my finger from tip to palm like this.
also be aware some resist death like buggery as ive seen on more than one occasion so a few taps may be required.my brothers invention of a club-length of rimu with a leadhead studded knot at one end(dad found out later!ow)saw some very messy kills but a lot more 1st strike success.
foos bait flour&spearmint ,or traps laid directly onto trails and secured with big fencing staples.yes they were gintraps ,nasty bastrds.

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Thanks I'll be sure to keep that in mind! Cheers!

So what do u guys think of the traps in the link? So I get some or should I wait and see what comes up on Trademe?

I use a wet mix, same ingredients more or less but with oil mixed through. Water resistant and sticks well. Rose essence is a good lure too.

Who do u recommended to sell the fur/skins to? ta

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Who do u recommended to sell the fur/skins to? ta

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Bit of info here might help.

https://sites.google.com/site/basica...ur-skin-prices

I realise it's an old thread but I would also like to know the answer to this question. Anyway, found a good deal so I have ordered some Pestgo traps. Will let you know what I think of them once I start using them.

Some great ideas on here, plus check out Naki Steelo on Youtube he has a series of videos "Titled Possum Trapping" for a living, vids are short he covers habitat, trap setting, skinning, plucking, maintenance and repair. He get a fair few of them.

Theres heaps of different traps for sale, some are excellent, some not so good. The PCR traps are ok, kinda, but there is better out there. I've found the Victor's and the Dukes to be the best, reasonably light, easy to set, and they hold well. When you do check a line of say 20 traps and find you have 4 or 5 sprung and empty, the extra cost for quality traps seems insignificant.

Theres a number of good video's on Yuotube, watched some good ones yesterday. Theyre not tutoriasls as such, but if you watch the good guys you will see what is a good set. Bedding properly is key. Take your time setting each and every trap perfect, you will make more money with trapped possums than you ever will from sprung traps.

Lots of little tricks too - possums are quite inquisitive. If you flag tape your trap positions then put the flagging tape directly above the trap, about a metre. The tape flapping in the winds gets themn curious. Can speed up your plucking process, plucking in to a plastic bag etc is a bit time consuming in a good ol' nor wester. Theres better ways fo doing it. The "sleepy stick" or 'sleepy hammer" works ok but can be messy, and as some have said, isnt always decisive. I carry a single shot 22 when i've got the grandkids with me, faster and cleaner. I always work one possum behind if things are busy, have one hanging on the 4 wheeler so the blood doesnt get on the fur, while I deal to the next one. Then pluck the first one while the second is hanging. This way the fur has "let down" and is easier plucking. If its hard to pluck, then it aint let down, then its probably not dead! You will find out when it tries to climb up your leg.

Quality traps all the way, spend the money and cry once...

those traps should be fine - check trapping rules on DOC land certainly up here no ground trapping is allowed at all - all sets must be raised to avoid kiwi - but if thats not a rule then ground set - but some points raised here - 1) dont use a hammer to dispatch possum as many trappers have found to their cost - get yourself a club - a piece of manuka about 3ft long with a piece of heavy pipe on end works - numbers of new trappers have injured themselves with a hammer trying to hit possums with it -nice clean .22 head shot is way better -2) lure -intensive research showed that a white flour blaze above trap works but initially its the white blaze,s visible attraction that brings the possum in -the lure part only takes effect over last few metres - lots of videos on trapping to help you out - sale well you could pluck fur -check what is selling - I know good quality dryed skins are selling but you will need tacking out boards - drying room - and learn how to do that - another option is green skins - who is buying what -

funny thing is back in the day when trapping I never used a lure at all..... just set traps in the right places,in runs under fences was classic or on upright root boss of a preaching tree.... there are some very good books on trapping written in 70s-80s the possums havent changed...spotlights and attitudes to using them have...and traps have gonefrom serrated jaw lanes ACEs to newer designs..the theory is still the same.

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funny thing is back in the day when trapping I never used a lure at all..... just set traps in the right places,in runs under fences was classic or on upright root boss of a preaching tree.... there are some very good books on trapping written in 70s-80s the possums havent changed...spotlights and attitudes to using them have...and traps have gonefrom serrated jaw lanes ACEs to newer designs..the theory is still the same.

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you are right a trap cameoed on a run would catch even the real crafty buggers - few leaves over trap and bang - but it does hit kiwi if around

Used to set a trapline ala Mickey duck style but bait traps with bitsd of apple and pear! bugger me we got some fat ones whose migraines were terminal upon the "jacko smacko" being swung by little brother.
speaking of skinning we were taught the jacket method .
laay jacko on its back rear legs to you .cut round leg joints and zip across groin to connect those two cuts .to get tail skinoff two flat bits of wood either side of tail;and pull .

right thats his arse end bare -now grab it and pull up tillyou reach front legs -fiddle about rtillyou get skin and leg apart to ankle-cut around .

pullup till you see base of ears -cut agross these and right round to sever skin from carcasse.
take a lump of 4xc2timber (or metric equivalent)and insert into skin tube .now stretch and takc in position ,put somewhere cool and airy to dry .check skins daily .

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Originally Posted by kotuku

Used to set a trapline ala Mickey duck style but bait traps with bitsd of apple and pear! bugger me we got some fat ones whose migraines were terminal upon the "jacko smacko" being swung by little brother.
speaking of skinning we were taught the jacket method .
laay jacko on its back rear legs to you .cut round leg joints and zip across groin to connect those two cuts .to get tail skinoff two flat bits of wood either side of tail;and pull .

right thats his arse end bare -now grab it and pull up tillyou reach front legs -fiddle about rtillyou get skin and leg apart to ankle-cut around .

pullup till you see base of ears -cut agross these and right round to sever skin from carcasse.
take a lump of 4xc2timber (or metric equivalent)and insert into skin tube .now stretch and takc in position ,put somewhere cool and airy to dry .check skins daily .

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yes that was called sleeve skinning - some skins were dryed on a bent no 8 wire with a U shape -fur side out - we used to skin quite differently and tack out on nailed boards - got a more square shape to dryed skin - and we got a better price for skins done that way over sleeve skinned

I can sleave skin from either end....tailend first is faster,head end first is cleaner..and open skin,but havent opened one up for years...and these days most just pluck..but the prices Ive heard for skins are very good...

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I can sleave skin from either end....tailend first is faster,head end first is cleaner..and open skin,but havent opened one up for years...and these days most just pluck..but the prices Ive heard for skins are very good...

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Dunno about yours and my last effort though still the greens will think we're the bees knees with our composting effort!!!

Interesting about skins .years ago when i was training at Seaview in Hokitika ,Basil Detlaff ran a very well patronised possum skin industry at Ross.Some of the deer recovery crews used to buy fur inners for sheepskin jackets worn whilst bowling deer in the freezing slipstream of a screaming Hughes 500 way up the back of godnoswheere in the southern alps.
Two women i worked with bought ladies evening jackets also -first was hip length made from matched red skins -second ordered as hip length was made floor length and it was bloody spectacular. wouldnt have looked out of place at the Oscars!
Also rich Yanks developed a fetish for skin products .bloke i knew ran a menswear shop[ in hoki-he told me of a well off NY socialite and her sugar daddy who ordered a bedspread made of matched skins and had one of New Yorks top designers redesign their luxurious apartment around this.
Apparently he was heard to say "whaat ma babe wants ma baabe gets!"

An old bloke a scotsman who lived near my grandparents up the Grey valley used to shoot em with a single shot .22 as they gazed enchanted by his flickering acetylene miners lamp .Old Jjimmy got more than a few silver greys which he shipped to the european fur markets in London.Apparently his product was very well rated often fetching 26+pounds per skin.

European furriers prized these skins for manufacture of topline furs for ther rich and elite royalty included.

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Originally Posted by indigo141

I realise it's an old thread but I would also like to know the answer to this question. Anyway, found a good deal so I have ordered some Pestgo traps. Will let you know what I think of them once I start using them.

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Sorry for the late update. The traps are ok. Great for $5.50. It turned out i had been using them for a long time and didnt know it. They were the same traps Twign from Trademe sold. Alas Twign has stopped selling traps. Pest Control Solutions Traps + Bait Station was good to deal with. The Pestgo traps seem to hang on to a possum alright.

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Originally Posted by kotuku

Dunno about yours and my last effort though still the greens will think we're the bees knees with our composting effort!!!

Interesting about skins .years ago when i was training at Seaview in Hokitika ,Basil Detlaff ran a very well patronised possum skin industry at Ross.Some of the deer recovery crews used to buy fur inners for sheepskin jackets worn whilst bowling deer in the freezing slipstream of a screaming Hughes 500 way up the back of godnoswheere in the southern alps.
Two women i worked with bought ladies evening jackets also -first was hip length made from matched red skins -second ordered as hip length was made floor length and it was bloody spectacular. wouldnt have looked out of place at the Oscars!
Also rich Yanks developed a fetish for skin products .bloke i knew ran a menswear shop[ in hoki-he told me of a well off NY socialite and her sugar daddy who ordered a bedspread made of matched skins and had one of New Yorks top designers redesign their luxurious apartment around this.
Apparently he was heard to say "whaat ma babe wants ma baabe gets!"

An old bloke a scotsman who lived near my grandparents up the Grey valley used to shoot em with a single shot .22 as they gazed enchanted by his flickering acetylene miners lamp .Old Jjimmy got more than a few silver greys which he shipped to the european fur markets in London.Apparently his product was very well rated often fetching 26+pounds per skin.

European furriers prized these skins for manufacture of topline furs for ther rich and elite royalty included.

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school mates mum in Taumarunui was doing the fur manufacturing thing way back then...saw a fur blanket and yip spectacular...we used to get a weird variation around the area a black skin with the cream markings,like the greys have..very strriking.other school mate was keeping all of them and intended to jet fur coat made from them...would love to see the final result.....back then those two larricans could burn up 300km on weekend night driving around spotlighting roadsides..was a different world back then.

I heard a story from a few years ago of a tourist outlet selling possum products. A tourist bus turned up and one of the men saw a possum duvet and asked how much it was. The shop owner looked him up and down and decided to have a bit of fun with him and doubled the price to 4K, with out an flicker of response the man said, right I'll have 2 of them.....

When you kill em, check for little uns in the pouch amd dispatch them cleanly too.

Bloke I went with use a bit of reflective tape - same as on life jacket as a lure, he's semi professional, couldn't fault the logic, they see the reflection , then up close go the icing sugar cinnamon smell

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Originally Posted by indigo141

..... They were the same traps Twign from Trademe sold. Alas Twign has stopped selling traps.

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Just jumped on Twign website and its not active
Lisa was very helpful, she gave me a lot of good useful info when I first started.
Bought a hundred of possum traps off her at ridiculously cheap price but just realized now, maybe... it was a closing down sale.

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When you kill em, check for little uns in the pouch amd dispatch them cleanly too.

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Joey have this reflect or nerve even after few stabs in the head, they still moving around for another 10 min.

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Bloke I went with use a bit of reflective tape - same as on life jacket as a lure, he's semi professional, couldn't fault the logic, they see the reflection , then up close go the icing sugar cinnamon smell

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I did a story a few years back about a young possumer who used a cheap small (25mm-osh) Aliexpress solar light on each tree that he had a trap on as an attractant, He reckoned they worked well

landcare research do a really good PDF on trapping and its comprehensive including care and setting up of traps how to adjust the plate etc google it

Check out some of Shay's early videos on his 'keeping it wild' youtube channel.

Excellant info on 'how to' possum trapping [emoji106]

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