It's quieter than a standard WMR round, especially with a suppressor.
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You could use standard WMR rounds for longer range stuff, or where more energy needed and the subsonics for closer range stuff, or where keeping quiet is important, so quite versatile. The first option isn't really there for 22LR. HV rounds never seem to be that accurate in 22LR and certainly don't have the punch of supersonic WMR rounds. Having said that, you are right, at the subsonic end, I can't see any advantage of WMR over 22LR.
Same weight, same speed, same energy as a .22 sub so all the good points of the magnum have been lost.
As above chamber ddimensions are different I however have seen it done accidentally in a sako quad first round chambered and actually fired and hit the target but didnt eject and needed a rod to get it out.
Owner admitted to a brain fade and had noticed the rounds looked short in the magazine.
Evening shoot up a small gully, 43 shot without moving, longest shot 130 mtrs and most under 100.
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That's a decent haul for sure @viper. From one spot gives a good indication of how thick they are down there.
Numbers are high in my area and the farms I shoot on. Other farms the numbers could be more or less. You never really know from one place to the next.
Weather can play a part on the day / night as well. It was still and warm ( not to hot ) so last evening was mint.
longest hit with CCI subs for the day . . .
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Small bunny/big hare from my place last night. Hare was @ 94m, bunny @ like 30m ish. Longest shot I've mace with subs in 22lr and reticle holdover instead of dialing. The sheer amount of meat that came off the hare was ridiculous...
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Managed to get out and actually see rabbits in the neighbours place. The cows have been let back in, and the grass is short enough to shoot again. I know there are rabbits around, as the roadside is dotted with them when we drive to work in the morning.
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Look at this fat barstool :O_O::thumbsup:
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Tried to get him with the air pistol the other day.
Thought I’d missed but looks like the slug ran down his back:)
Rattus Mungus. Ha ha ha ha
Year I wanted to throw him on the kitchen scales but the wife started to throw her toys out of the cot:XD:
Really don’t know what the fuse was about:ORLY:
Well with the whined up:thumbsup:
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Rossi .45LC using 230grn. LEE soft lead bullet at 960fps . . . a fun gun to take out for some old school shooting
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set up a couple of those fenns inside a trap box with a crust of bread and an orange ping pong ball last week,in the back section 5 yards from the dog kennels...so far 3 hedge hogs and a very ugly rat with scabby tail and funky cauliflower ears.
no real advantage.....45grn vs 42grn but if you own and use a magnum .22 you quite possibly dont own a .22lr,the 22lr is definately cheaper to feed,it would be interesting to hear how quiet the magnun subs are without suppressor...Ive taken to using my .22lr bare with subsonics,the noise is quiet enough that I dont think I will bother with suppressor on the rimfire again.
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Finally got a chance to go for a walk with the 22lr AR again - mopped up a few bunnies. I have decided the holosun works really well for the farms I shoot on as they have alot of small hills and often you turn a corner and they are 20m away. Also the 22 ar is just so fun to shoot.
Good size Norway @Sideshow - the Fenn is an ugly killing machine
I soured a lot of trap bait by putting one in the end of a culvert for a rabbit - it makes a mess of a hog if you don’t get back to it in a day or so - I hate getting a hog out of a Fenn 6
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Yep I'm just glad they have the little safety catch. Hate to get me fingers in the road:o
Been a bit slack on posting lately.
Couple of hares last night at mid range...any where between 20 and 200yards:D
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More dust in the boot from the gravel road.
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Ready to go after hanging on the clothes line all night.
Back steaks.
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And back legs.
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Good night on the Hares bout an hour with my son on the spotlight, 8 in total (1 already processed in the bag) taken with the 22 average range 50 yards or less all but 1 head shot.
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Might have to hit @Dundee up for some hare recipes got a freezer full of back legs and a bag of back steaks to eat now
Its nice to see hares being put to good use, so much tasty meat on them.
Headshots only. Tikka T1x 17hmr in the raspberry orchard
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Here's a few from when I managed to get out for a walk on Saturday in the 30+ degree heat, surprisingly there were still a few about.
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And a couple more from my place during the week - you can tell it's at home because the cheeky bloody cat's already licking its chops after rolling all over it!!
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Legs too @Dundee or just back steaks ? Was it you that suggested cook and coat ? Also I butchered mine and froze immediately should I defrost them a day or two before I use them and let them age in the fridge ?
Did another mission to the farm. Dropped another 772 bunnies and a few velocirabbits as well.
Managed to smack over my first black bunny. Would've taken it to the taxidermist if the other wasn't missing. 223 55gr SP made it go pop :)
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The ultimate ultimate hare recipe:
Separate back legs. Remove the floating ribs so that you have a long section of back - the loin and saddle.
Place into a good sized stainless pot with:
1 bottle cheap Ausi Red.
1 grated carrot
6 crushed Juniper berries.
2 Bay leaves - fresh if you have them
1/2 tsp sugar
1 chopped celery stalk
1/2 onion diced
Leave in pot with lid on in fridge turning the meat over when you are at the fridge so that all meat is exposed to marinade for 3 or 4 days
Place a good sized stainless or cast pan on the heat.
With tongs or by hand place meat into hot pan with oil. Glaze/seal the meat. This is an important step as it stops the joints loosing moisture.
Strain the marinade into the frying pan and discard strainings.
Place the joints back into the pot
De glaze the pan with the marinade.
Poor the marinade out of the pan back into the pot and gently simmer the joints until tender.
Again lift the joints out of the cooked marinade into the pan.
Increase the heat in the pot to a gentle boil and reduce the marinade to a thick Jus (sauce)
When ready to serve reglaze the meat in the pan with a little olive oil. Serve with the Jus and roast vegetables and greens.
Not complicated, requires only a pot and a frypan and would win Master Chef !!
Hare today...
I used the "gutless" method to prepare the animal taking backstraps and back legs. So much nicer than dealing with guts! All good practice for the rare occasion I get to shoot something bigger.
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Gutless method is great for hares and bunnies, best done immediately if possible as I find the skin is easier to pull off the fresher it is, surprising amount of meat on a hares back steaks and back legs
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Guts in or guts out for hanging?