Thread: $80,000 Sika hunting comp

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

That's exactly the attitude the likes of Forest and Bird portray of hunters.
Have you heard of Fiordland Wapiti Foundation, and the Sika Foundation?
Most of their efforts are along the lines of conservation and balance.
And they are making serious progress with ensuring we having hunting in the future.

Id say F&B would be correct re 50% of hunters with that attitude.but what really can make a difference is if all us hunters vote together because at the end of the day politics is going to decide what happens because there is so much money involved.ACT and NZ first are our(hunters)only hope I believe.as said before F&B are extremists there is no negotiation with them.they want ALL deer gone.
PS ever tried walking thru native that has no deer in it?it sucks no one wants to do that,even hikers so what's the point if ya can't wander off track and enjoy.

Originally Posted by SneedFeed

That's cool, I had a look, I'd like to do something like that one day but it doesn't look like people are allocated blocks, even informally. Freaky looking deer. If I lived around there I'd hunt the core areas and stay away from the fringes, let them spread. It's not the deer's fault DOC is woke.

Leave the freaky deer to us HB lads fella. We will be allocating the blocks from the base of the big red beach at the center of the core. Woke deer are worth double points.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

That's exactly the attitude the likes of Forest and Bird portray of hunters.
Have you heard of Fiordland Wapiti Foundation, and the Sika Foundation?
Most of their efforts are along the lines of conservation and balance.
And they are making serious progress with ensuring we having hunting in the future.

That's fine, what makes them the ones in the right? We don't have to submit to them and their impossible dreams. I dream that one day deer will be wandering around small towns and people will throw them bread from their back porches like they do in USA. My dream doesn't cost the taxpayer anything and its a lot more likely to become reality

Originally Posted by SneedFeed

That's fine, what makes them the ones in the right? We don't have to submit to them and their impossible dreams. I dream that one day deer will be wandering around small towns and people will throw them bread from their back porches like they do in USA. My dream doesn't cost the taxpayer anything and its a lot more likely to become reality

Sounds great. Even I might be able to shoot one under those circumstances

Originally Posted by MB

Sounds great. Even I might be able to shoot one under those circumstances

Nah you actually can't, I've never been there but they have huge outskirts to their towns and cities, there is enough greenery to support the deer but they can't be shot because they're basically in people's back yards and its too dangerous even for Americans. The deer found a loophole

Originally Posted by Yesmate

mate of mine reckons he saw 6 sika in ruahines rangiwahia area a while ago.hes reliable but of course could have been mistaken, they were one the run a couple of hundred away.

205DS sika shot 3 km south east of the old mill at Makarora last year. Mate sent me a photo. Only a matter of time till they cross that gap.

Originally Posted by Yesmate

mate of mine reckons he saw 6 sika in ruahines rangiwahia area a while ago.hes reliable but of course could have been mistaken, they were one the run a couple of hundred away.

There are definately sika in the ruahines - shot a couple around the Mokai Plateau/ruahine corner area

Originally Posted by SneedFeed

That's fine, what makes them the ones in the right? We don't have to submit to them and their impossible dreams. I dream that one day deer will be wandering around small towns and people will throw them bread from their back porches like they do in USA. My dream doesn't cost the taxpayer anything and its a lot more likely to become reality

If you took note if what I said, I stated "the likes of Forest and Bird".
Nowhere did I say they were right.

I think most hunters are aware of the issues re: deer numbers and know the importance of keeping the numbers in check so we can have a healthy deer resource and a thriving habitat for them to live in.

It's a win win, and the consequences of not keeping them in check is government intervention using heli hunters, 1080 & handing out waro concessions like candy.
At the heart of it we have to look after our backyard so we can have the animals we love in it.

They have been in the Nthn Ruahines for as long as I can remember. But ordinarily they don't travel all that far in their day to day business.

This was a great study https://www.scionresearch.com/__data...IDSON77_88.pdf

Originally Posted by McNotty

205DS sika shot 3 km south east of the old mill at Makarora last year. Mate sent me a photo. Only a matter of time till they cross that gap.

They have been there since the 80s I think if the spread was to happen it would of done so buy now.

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Originally Posted by SneedFeed

Hunters need to do their part and let them spread. It's a natural inclination to shoot something rare but it should be the other way around

Nah.....we have to keep them under control or it gives the antis more ammunition to call for dreaded green rain. I love seeing deer as much as next guy,but are realist.we need to keep a balance.

Originally Posted by BRADS

They have been there since the 80s I think if the spread was to happen it would of done so buy now.

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I was farming in the area it was shot in 2002-2003, there were no sika around this area at that time. I spent a heap of time in the surrounding Doc and forestry land either hunting or grazing cattle and never saw or heard any there either. Someone has let them go or they’ve escaped, into Gwavas in recent years.

Sneedfeed....you are falling into same trap the folks who want to see all farm animals live out natural lives and not head off to freezing works.....it simply cannot work as population needs to do boom n bust thing many times before finding a balance....and this country simply cannot sustain that. Put dozen lambs in your backyard and see for yourself how long they can survive before starving till most die off( no don't do that) would be same thing. Huge mobs of feral animals would eat pasture meant for domestic stock....again not sustainable.... Balance is needed. It's all about finding happy medium where everything can thrive,people,animals birds and plants,too much of any one of those and things get out of kilter and scales tip.

Originally Posted by McNotty

I was farming in the area it was shot in 2002-2003, there were no sika around this area at that time. I spent a heap of time in the surrounding Doc and forestry land either hunting or grazing cattle and never saw or heard any there either. Someone has let them go or they’ve escaped, into Gwavas in recent years.

They definitely were
I to have farmed buy it and hunted most of it and never seen one
Theres a pic somewhere of a load of sika under a 300 at the north block carpark in the early 90s late 80s


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