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"If I could hunt in the Hunua Ranges, I would probably go every weekend and I would take my kids."
Isn't that cheating? Easy to find goats when you take your own kids with you.....;)
This gives a base line for estimates re the added value hunters make to DOC administered land and justify hunting to their neo-liberal paymasters.
Wow, just wow.... Similar problems here where helicopter waro for version is used to control deer numbers but no access for recreational hunting.... (private property) as rupert says it goes to show the value of hunters.
Wonder if those figures are for eradication or control? Eradication could be expensive to get the last couple
Why don't the council sell limited goat hunting permits for recreational hunters? Hunters happy, goat numbers controlled and revenue gained.
There used to be a permit system from franklin council. Get a permit valid for a year. Dont know why it stopped
There would have to be something to hunt and presumably they are aiming for zero goats as per pest/predator free nz by 2020 or is it 2025 or 2050?Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBoosh
They could pay us and come out with the same results, this is the problem I see with this Predator Free NZ when you go for eradication it is costly and time consuming, imagine the process and cost for rats, mice, possum, mustilids (x 3) cats etc it will bankrupt the country especially with current methods.
i think at a push i could shoot no goats for $91000......
actually i havent shot any in the 2016/2017 year...... $91k earned , i must remind them of my bank account number
On the plus side, they didn't spend a million plus on the green rain. Or is this on top of that outstanding result? Oh and I am joking.
There’s a few “expensive goats” in Auckland Council that need culling that’s for sure.
You can hunt the Southern "DOC part of the ranges" on an open Permit. Problem is the same cullers go through there so there's fuck all in there. The permits for pigs are easy enough to get but with all the other recreational user firearms are a no go.
Not according to DOC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
You need a special permit from the Auckland office, the open permit doesn't cover this area.
http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-rec...#activitypanel
Must be a recent change. Last couple of years or so. Fuck all there anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
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dunno how much they spent ut they did drop the green stuff in there a couple of seasons ago........ but its ok .....only auckland draws its drinking water from there ...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Preacher
$91k seems cheap compared to this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ands-hunt-pest
In a weird way that makes more sense. They have a million times more chance of keeping those islands predator free. Maybe we should send a lot of the doc/council crowd down there to the island to look after it.Quote:
Originally Posted by quentin
Local hunters should be able to keep the numbers down no problem but eradication is an ecologists expensive dream. The goats will be back. As soon someone dumps a trailer load of goats back in the Hunuas you have failed. To achieve eradication on the mainland you need to fence everyone out using very expensive large fences with extensive maintenance programs. A lot of people would like to do this as they think of public land as their Utopian laboratory where only they have access. They want to be in control.
Don't go to southern as thats private land, Im having few issues with illegal hunters in there. We allow the kids from Dilworth school to use the land so can be a bit of a worry with people hunting illegal in the area.
One time 2 years back I was sleeping in the Hunt and in the middle of the night someone fires a gun just 20 to 50 meters away... sh#t scared the life out of me
Use to be heaps of goats there 20 years or so ago but now I've not seen one in over 10 years.
Don't go to southern as thats private land, Im having few issues with illegal hunters in there. We allow the kids from Dilworth school to use the land so can be a bit of a worry with people hunting illegal in the area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
One time 2 years back I was sleeping in the Hunt and in the middle of the night someone fires a gun just 20 to 50 meters away... sh#t scared the life out of me
Use to be heaps of goats there 20 years or so ago but now I've not seen one in over 10 years.
I havent bothered hunting the place. Sucks because it's just down the road but there's no point slogging through that kind of country if cullers are hitting it regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevs
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The same tension happened many years ago in a certain Forest Park in central NI and the head honcho used to deprecate private hunters as not having the skill level of privateers. He pulled his head in or stopped saying that in public when a large cocky hunter threatened to throw him head first into the toilet.