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I would think a .223 would be a cost-effective and more reliable calibre at getting the job done. Would be keen to hear others experience of using .17HMR on wallabies. Not a huge difference in price between cheap .223 and 17HMR ammo. The .223 would be less risky of inhumane kills and give you a lot more range too. Youd probably use less ammo with .223. Id say the 17HMR would require the odd follow-up shot
Exactly what Juicy said. I've hunted wallaby with 17HMR, 1st shot knocked them down but didn't kill, follow-ups needed. 223 better.
The buy,sell,swap section is hidden from new members to stop scammers. Once you are a contributing forum member access will be granted. .223 works well on wallabies and legal on public land which the 17 isn't, I haven't used a 17hmr.
Thanks bro what would be the ideal range for a .223 and the best bullet weight for them?
Why not post a thread asking about the buy sell instead of posting a question about 17hmr and wallabies?
Seems a bit strange to me
For me, I'm using 55 grain bullets and shoot out to around 200m. Lots of guys shoot longer ranges but I only have a 3-9x power scope and they are a small target at that distance.
No offence intended but he's from Hamilton nuff said. I think he means the little drama rats round there. .17 would do them easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag
Sorry I was a bit confused on how to work the thread
I shot a bunch of roos over the weekend with a 22lr. So long as I could get close enough to reliably hit them in the side of the head, neck, or upper chest, it put them down very well. A 17hmr with something like the 20gr gamepoint would definitely give better performance and be easier to get the precise hit with - making it a lot more forgiving.
But... Interesting though was that the 22 with subs and a suppressor was so quiet that the roos which weren't put down cleanly with the first shot didn't run off. They knew they were hurt. But they didn't seem to realise it was because there was a danger they should be trying to run away from. They just sat there wondering wtf was going on waiting for the 2nd bullet.
From shooting them with 223's (and bigger), I know that with that supersonic crack, they don't do this. They will run when hit (if not dropped instantly) and aren't going to stupidly hang around to give you a nice easy follow up.
So there were none that I hit with the 22lr that got away to die a slow death. I speculate there may have been some with a 17hmr though. Enough noise to make them run. Not enough damage to obliterate them like a centrefire.
Thanks pommy this has answered my question perfectlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
and your north island over grown rats would fit in pouch of our south island ones LOL.
Big difference between a north and South roo I believe, I don’t think a 17 would be a lot of use below the cook strait. Some big bucks can soak up a surprising amount of lead down this way
Bennett's wallaby in the SI get up around 18kg and are big lumps of things. Ive shot several with the .17 no problem with chest shots. But what it does is limits your range and you need to be very precise. Our culling mate uses a .17 a lot on bunnies and of course comes across roos -he doesn't like the .17 on them - too many need a second shot or hop away hit. Of course he is more rushed and not so precise.
The Dama wallaby in the NI are only little guys and the .17 would be a lot better on them.
Yep those were South Canty beastiesQuote:
Originally Posted by luckey
I have shot quite a few dama wallabies and the .17 does the job comfortably. Be a bit cheaper than the .223 these days with affordable ammo no longer a thing.
Interesting conversation.
223 being legal on Crown land should make the decision easy.
I don't own a 223, but do have 222-remington and 22 Hornet. I don't think either are "allowed" on Crown land but have achieved one shot kills on goat and fallow deer (222 Rem not Hornet) I would have no hesitation on suggesting either would be adequate for north island wallaby and possibly the bigger south island species.
What's the forums thoughts on 222 Remington or 22 Hornet for wallaby? The noise would certainly be less than 223, possibly allowed a second shot?
In the SI a 222/223 with 55gn plus projectiles will get the job done, I have shot a couple with my wife’s 17hmr but wouldn’t do it again, for a while I was using 243 with either 65/87gn vmaxs and it worked well for longer shots.
Energy per kilo the 17 is more suitable for wallaby than a 223 on Reds.
222 is legal and works fine
Mate I reckon a .308 with soft hollow points shall do the trick just fine
If you are shooting any sort of volume the availability and cost of brass makes .223 a winner. You dont mind so much if you dont pick up all your brass.
The 222 and Hornet are both more than adequate for NI wallaby and used within there limits I think they would work well on SI wallaby. I have shot thousands of the NI wallaby during my many years on the pest board and have used lots of different calibres but most were shot with 22 Mag, and 22LR in both sub and super with good results. We did numerous studies over the years and lots of statistics were taken including weights, many of the big bucks going around the 9-10 kg mark. Even though the SI wallaby can grow double the size , you can still take them at sensible ranges and good bullet placement , they aren’t bulletproof and a good shot in the chest should work fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Shields
We also had a lot of success cruising forestry roads(private) using the 12 gauge and 4 shot lead, we had a couple of spotlighters in the truck and two shooters on the back. We never stopped just moved at about 20 kms and shot them as they crossed the road or on the numerous skid sites.
the #2 or #BB is ideal for our big huas.....and they do get BIG ...Ive got skin here I shot years ago,its cut off below neck and still 6 foot to end of tail... two of us struggled to swing one over a deer fence.... if big roo ges a hold of your dog they can do serious damage...
Ive been with others spotlighting,one fella had a 17hmr it worked well but the 7.62x39mm oh so much better..the 223 is just about ideal for them and the softer the projectile the better..HUGE difference between a varmit pill and normal round...the normal stuff still kills really well but explody ones just so much more emphatic.
I'm heading up after the big buggers in 2 weeks, should be fun