Thread: 223 on deer

oldschool....whats happened here,is in your ignorance/quest for information ,you have insulted a LOT of people by implying they are risking wounding animals....
your last line above...has nobody ever told you that assumption is the mother of all fuckups????
if you dont know,you dont know...thats part of the reason this thread is here..so you can read it and learn.
the guy in sport shop is correct..you would be better off with a .308 to shoot deer...NOBODY will deny that...but by same token if your recoil shy you would possibly be better off with .223 you still have to follow the rules,get in close enough and put right TYPE of projectile in right place...
you have two options with .222--223 etc either use fragile and go for head neck or crease and hope it blows a big enough area of damage to knock out animal /disable enough vitals to put it down quickly..or something harder and poke it through vital bits and hopefully break a shoulder if not two.... the heavy weights can do that with ease as can monos BUT you still got to put that tiny wee bit of metal in the right place.
I know people who regularly shoot deer with .22 magnum and others who use a 17 to do the same.... would I recomend it??? hell NO but they are surpurb markmen and are in range of undisturbed animals or animals are in spotlight or thermal scope.... do they occasionally have a cock up??? yip but will be into the follow up shots to disable animal bloody quick as can use semiauto in those tiny cartridges..private land pest control...
the thing with .308 etc is you CAN load them down to lower levels..eg turn your 308 into a 7.62x39mm or 30/30 for all intents and purposes... lower recoil by lowering projectile weight and/or speed. you cant make a 7.62x39mm into a .308..you can try but cant do it...wont get it fast enough.