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    On Wednesday I shot a nanny goat at 455 yards with the 52gn Targex. It was sitting down at the base of a small bank. I aimed at the center of the chest and can't be sure where I hit it (I didn't recover it) but it just rolled over and slid down the bank below. Very satisfying.
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    A couple using 62 grn Norma I loaded for wallaby but thought I would try on deer, albeit little ones.
    200 yds. MV 3180. Arrival velocity 2380. Bullet had no trouble going right through. Probably lead for Africa in the meat
    Both dropped on the spot


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    Couple of bush hunted Sika from the week.
    75gr eldms doing the business.
    First one was hardly a test, head shot at about 15 yards as it peered around a tree at me. All energy dumped in the head with no exit.

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    Second one was sitting down quartering towards me at about 25 yards. She never stood up. Projectile exited behind the offside shoulder through the ribs.
    Get a lot of bang flops on the small bush Sika with the 75gr eldms which is good.

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    I read that last comment and can't help but think of the 87grn Hornady in 243 that was so popular for awhile. They must be quite similar broadly speaking. Much quieter and less powder and in smaller action for sure but ,well,you know.
    75/15/10 black powder matters

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    Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.

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    80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

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    Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.

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    80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

    Knife pointing to entry
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    Wound on the inside of the shoulder
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    And correspondingly on the ribs
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    Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
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    Heart
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    Inside rib cage
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    Bullet jacket & core as found
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    You are just like my old man carrying around a steel ruler like that...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billbob View Post
    You are just like my old man carrying around a steel ruler like that...!
    That’s the measure of a man.
    Doing things well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.

    Attachment 262283

    80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

    Knife pointing to entry
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    Wound on the inside of the shoulder
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    And correspondingly on the ribs
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    Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
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    Heart
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    Inside rib cage
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    Bullet jacket & core as found
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    Is that a reprofiled Mountain Skinner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inglishill View Post
    Is that a reprofiled Mountain Skinner?
    No, it's a saddle mountain hunter, an old discontinued model. I've had it for maybe 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    No, it's a saddle mountain hunter, an old discontinued model. I've had it for maybe 10 years
    The light one is 1.2 lb
    https://armageddongear.com/product/s...-shooting-bag/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Mine is actually about 360 grams - much lighter than indicated.

    I have it for precision rifle competition but it is such a stable rest that I have been experimenting with taking it hunting for front-country day trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.

    Attachment 262283

    80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

    Knife pointing to entry
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    Wound on the inside of the shoulder
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    And correspondingly on the ribs
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    Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
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    Heart
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    Inside rib cage
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    Bullet jacket & core as found
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    The busted shoulder thing you mentioned. Here's a similar shot and a run with a broken shoulder. It was well dead on its feet but still got 100 yards. 77TMK.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHZn17dvNg
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    A schmedium is a particular shooting bag. Any bag of the type works but it is the one that I have, with very light fill.

    Plonked on top of a generic lightweight tripod it's a stable rest for a good sitting position like so

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    Great photos @gimp.
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