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And shot of jaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag
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It happens. About 1 from the last couple hundred head shots for me. Gut shots happen on front shoulder shots, I wouldn't advise against themQuote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
At the end of the day there is only a very few on here capable of consistent head shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I don't condone it as I see what skill level of the average is like and also the capability of the weapon systems employed.
It doesn't have to be much of fuck up for it to end very badly for the deer.
I just call it ethical hunting.
100m with a well zeroed rifle, perhaps.
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So far it hasn't happened, I'm using a very fine tuned rig and am confident with it so I'm happy to take those shots if the conditions and rest is rightQuote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Funny how from the venison era the ground meat hunters had to head shoot preferably to maximise their return from a deer. The sound of the triple deuce must echoed around the NZ bush... and farm edges. It is not a question of confidence but having no recoil to worry about... 222/223 and suppressed. 2C.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Yep very experienced hunters that could hunt shoot and knew their rifles and that a long shot was 200m.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRei
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Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Yi got that right eh..although those barrels did quite often become stretched on many occasions..
As always...as much about when knowing NOT to shoot as knowing when to. Patience to wait for a sure killing shot or let animal walk,hoping to catch it up later/ further on.
Remember the context. The head/neck shooting only became really necessary when the whole deer and offal thing came in, and by then we were mainly shooting farm land and more accessible areas. The shooting was less challenging and with a good rest wasn't difficult. Prior to that I was whopping them in the lungs as often as I head or neck shot with my .222 in the Ruahines and Tararuas and other bitches of places and taking the hit for body shots or just selling the HQ's with BS attached for a premium. The whole meat hunting thing has been glorified by a couple of authors. It was mainly about ordinary people up to their elbows in blood and shit while wrecking their bodies and learning on the job. The good days were exaggerated in the pub and the bad days pushed to one side. Im a way better hunter and shooter now than I was then.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Thats how it ought to be, the reality was that the dollars dictated when the trigger got squeezed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Let this one walk once ,until tonight came in
on UE Boom with croaking going.Shot in neck with 55 gr Hornady Sp on 25 gr of 748
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OOps..I thought the comment made was pointing towards the Government hunters not the all on board meat hunting types.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I'm glad you see yiself as a better hunter now than aways back....yi should have stuck with it aways back and who knows you may have even got ti killing for the Government eh..
@doinit I agree with you that the NZFS were in another league - I guess 'cos there was a selection process and the unsuccessful hunters went down the road. I was 27 when I finished with meat in '76 and had a family by then. Got a ballot farm.Quote:
Originally Posted by doinit
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Originally Posted by NRT
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We've been loving the 223 lately, proving itself to punch way above its weight. To be honest with the ease of shooting and ability to spot the impact it inspires confidence and accuracy.
I wrote a little bullet point summary from the last trip: https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....7/#post1680240
Here's a photo from the exit on the opposite ribs. This is after destroying the entry shoulder. Very fast and ethical takedown and lots of delicious venison for a few families while out camping for the weekend.
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So, just to ask the question what is considered the best bullet to run in a 1-8 twist restricted mag length .223 rifle, is it still the 65 grain gameking or have others surpased it?
73gn Hornady ELD-M.
Or 77TMK
For big heavy stags yes, otherwise use the 55g Gameking code #1365Quote:
Originally Posted by nor-west
Red Stags??Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by Oldbloke
Here’s some of the kills this year so far with the 223. Mostly shot off the walking poles as the terrain wasn’t prone friendly. Have been liking using the 73gr , 75gr A-max and ELD-m and 80gr ELD-m. Sound wise the 80 grainers hit harder and only .2 of a Mil in scope adjustment zeros to the 75 grainers.
180m head shot 75gr A-max on a spiker , entrance is in the ear on the opposite side.
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Fallow spiker 240m 75gr A-max, double lung and exit bang flop.
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Hind at 160m 80gr ELD-M, lung shot run 15m then rolled another 20m
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Spiker step high angle shot at 440m shooting off walking sticks 80gr ELD-M, instant death and falling over a bluff then rolling to the valley floor.
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Another hight angle stag 380m 75gr ELD-M, broadside shot, stag hit low lung and high exit then run 30m and stopped gave him another shot 40mm from the first shot tipping him over rolling down to the valley floor. He was probably dead from the first shot but don’t like runners if I can get another in.
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90m neck shot off walking sticks, 75gr A-Max
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Bush stalking 15m 75gr A-max straight on chest shot, only run 15m/20m and died.
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330m with a 80gr ELD-M run 30m
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Was first light camped up in the bush cooking bacon and sausage for breakfast a old girl hind was barking at us from the other side of the creek 35m away and didn’t run off. Enough time to turn the gas off grab the rifle and drill her on the spot double lung with a 80gr ELD-m.
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What's the rifle
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Standard Tikka T3x but had the chamber long throated to run the 80 grainers and Waterman magazines. Nightforce NX8 2.5-20x50 for glass.Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
Very nice my Tikka didn't like the 80eldm.Quote:
Originally Posted by tikka
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