7mm rem mag vs 300wsm

Hey team, hopefully everyone’s not losing their minds too much, it’s probably been asked several times before so I do apologise but I’m looking at getting a new rifle and I’m tossing up between 7mm rem mag and a 300 wsm. I’ll be using it on animals out to a max of 700-800 but also want to be able to have some fun target shooting at longer ranges. I currently have a 308 but I’m using that for every type of hunting at the moment so want to retire it to a bush rifle.
Any advise would be appreciated and any pros and cons of each caliber
I will also be looking at getting into reloading soon
Cheers

Do the same thing at end of the day mate, ones short and ones long. Can both be cut down to 20/22inches. Can both be loaded with lites or heavys. Both good weapons

The BC of 7mm projectiles is generally better than the 30cal. So you need to go to a lot heavier 30cal to equal the bc of a lighter 7mm. This will mean more recoil in the 30cal. But if you are muzzle braking or using a suppressor that can be a moot point.
I had a 7mm mag for a number of years and it used it out to 650yds on game. Really liked it.
I think High Country boy on here has a Kimber 7mm mag for sale.

Both will do what you want, choose the one YOU can shoot most accurately. If possible get some time to shoot both rifles in the make/brand you want to buy. Stock design can play a big part in shooting magnums accurately . While the recoil is not that different in total ft/lbs the RM is more of a big push compared to WSM which feels sharper to me.

Yep I’ve got the kimber 7mmrm for sale, I find the recoil realitively tame, it’s less of a noticeable recoil than my Forbes 270, my dad had a 300wsm and found the recoil a lot worse on it.

Iv had both and preferred the Rem Mag for the aforementioned push recoil rather than getting hit in the shoulder with a hammer.

Both good stag and bull thar killers.

Definitely want some sort of muzzle attachment on the WSM though. Especially if it's a light rifle which most are these days.

As chainsaw has mentioned the recoil impulse from the wsm is alot harder vs the 7mmRM due to running faster powders in my opinion. I built one a few years ago then on sold it as it just didn't do anything my 7mmmag wouldn't do with less fuss. Still have the 7.

What Stug said.

The 180 ELD-Ms I shoot from my 7RM set off at 2840 and have a very high BC for wind bucking and retained energy. To get to the same sort of BC in .30 cal you need to be well over 200 grains, with the attendant recoil. .300 WSM isn’t really suited to launching those bullets in the same way that bigger .30s can.

7 RM (or 7 BM) would be my choice.

Thanks for the info guys. My mate has a tikka t3 300wsm and he rates it. I’ve had a couple shots with it and was bloody surprised how much it kicked (going from 308 to that). I was looking at getting the t3x lite in one of these calibers as I don’t have the coin to splash out on something too crazy

All the points seem to have been covered. Both work equally well mate so you can’t go wrong. Personally I use a 7mm rem mag. Here’s a vid I made on it not long ago.

https://youtu.be/167dw96j4qw

Cheers mate. Very helpful vid

Are you efficient at shooting animals at 700-800 metres?or just wanting to get into it?if you don't know what your doing(have you ever shot an animal at 700?)don't even worry about a "7-800m gun".there is Sooo much to learn/experience at those ranges before the gun makes a difference.

I’ve shot out to 600 on goats with my 308 and further on targets. But haven’t gone beyond that on animals for ethical reasons

Take a look at 6.5 PRC you will be surprised,a 143grn has more hitting power, higher bullet speeds than the 7mm rem mag 162grn at distances over 500,factory ammo specs.less recoil.

I have a Remington 700 in .300wsm with a terminator muzzle brake, it has less kick than my marlin x7 in .308.
I have shot a couple of mates 7mmremmags and didn't notice any difference in felt recoil.
Both do the same job, all the dear I have shot with mine have fallen over on the spot.
I just use factory ammo and it is accurate and fairly common.

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I moved from being a 30 cal shooter - 308/30-06/300Win Mag/300Blaser mag to 7mm. So with 5 7mm Rem Mags later and now a 7mm SAUM and 7mm Blaser on the way. Fantastic ballistic performance, a touch less recoil and no need for 30cal Heavies which drive a bunch of recoil in a light rifle. I also owned 270WSM (fast - limited bullet choice and barrel twist) and 6.5x55 (gentle, kids loved it) but the 7mm was my sweet spot. And with 7mm Rem Mag ammo you have a good choice if you don't hand load, and its economical if you do hand load.

Also you can get great performance without a using 24in barrel is you know what your doing. But hey you can shoot anything at all with a the humble 308 if you need to, out to very long way. nothing walks away from that beautiful cartridge if you choose the right projectile and do your your part.

I have both and prefer the 300WSM's for me they have been more consistently accurate than the 7mm mags.
There is a reason that they have been used for bench rest shooting.

I also feel in a similar weight rifle 7mm rem mag kicks the same or more due to burning more powder and generally has a higher muzzle pressure producing more blast.

7mm Mag looks good on paper and I have been working on another 7mm rem mag rifle over the lock down but still plan on sticking with the 300wsm for more of my hunting.

Im yet to find a rem mag that wont shoot raggered hole 100yd groups kittens to shoot easy to find bits and pieces for. 300wsms one of my all time favorites on cool factor but i didnt end up playing with my one certainly imagen being a wsm itll be less forgiving recoil wise

1st of all I do not own a 7rm. I love my 300wsm. I like the modern case design of the wsm over the 7rm. Efficient, minimal trimming, and like how it looks. Its very consistent as well and it just shoots any bullet I throw in it. It's ludacris how easy it is.

Don't believe a 300wsm kicks more than a 7rm.

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i have owned 2 different 300WSM's and shot a couple more and owned 4 different 7RM's, mixture of stocks, makes, weights and models. I do most of my load dev without suppressor or brake. The recoil on 300wsm is definitely sharper and harder than the RM. After 18 - 20 rounds your shoulder knows about it. Put a suppressor or brake on either one and they are tame.

Ive tried them all, endlessly poured over ballistic charts and spent a small fortune.

But if I want to make certain stuff stays dead I use my 300saum every time (pretty much the same as the 300wsm). 20", 168grn NBT, out to 5-600 yards. Dead as a dead thing every time. I wouldn't step in its way at 800 yards either. The difference between sleek and not so sleek is just a few clicks.

30 cal simply makes bigger holes in my experience. Maybe its the larger frontal surface area of the projectiles at any given weight.

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Take a look at 6.5 PRC you will be surprised,a 143grn has more hitting power, higher bullet speeds than the 7mm rem mag 162grn at distances over 500,factory ammo specs.less recoil.

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Not so sure on that one? The numbers i’ve run say otherwise.

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Originally Posted by stagstalker

Not so sure on that one? The numbers i’ve run say otherwise.

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Yea dunno about that 7rm surely has the edge. Would be bloody close though be more efficient out of prc .probably using 10gns less powder for very similar performance .Depend on the individual set up i guess the 143 is right up their with the 162 bc how fast does prc drive the 143? 2900? If so rem mag still has edge just if doing 3000

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Not so sure on that one? The numbers i’ve run say otherwise.

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you are right I was comparing Hornady precision hunter 143eldx to Hornady 162 interlok.when compared to the equivalent 162 eldx the rem mag edges the PRC.Comparing Rem mag 154 grn sst,the prc over takes in velocity at 500 yards and hitting power at 800.PRC got some grunt.

You can compare as many ballistic charts as you can find on the internet but they’re not important. End of the day they both kill things just as dead as each other. Nothing I’ve shot with my WSM has got up and said I wish you’d used a rem mag, They just don’t get up. Both will do the job you are looking for. So just pick one and go kill some stuff with it.............. in saying all that the WSM is better :thumbsup:

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You can compare as many ballistic charts as you can find on the internet but they’re not important. End of the day they both kill things just as dead as each other. Nothing I’ve shot with my WSM has got up and said I wish you’d used a rem mag, They just don’t get up. Both will do the job you are looking for. So just pick one and go kill some stuff with it.............. in saying all that the WSM is better :thumbsup:

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yea agree with all of that,if your long range shooting though you should take hitting power into account.I wouldn't want to hitting red deer with anything less than 1100ftlb.

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Originally Posted by Mr300WSM

You can compare as many ballistic charts as you can find on the internet but they’re not important. End of the day they both kill things just as dead as each other. Nothing I’ve shot with my WSM has got up and said I wish you’d used a rem mag, They just don’t get up. Both will do the job you are looking for. So just pick one and go kill some stuff with it.............. in saying all that the WSM is better :thumbsup:

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Its in the title @Mr300WSM

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Originally Posted by Mr300WSM

You can compare as many ballistic charts as you can find on the internet but they’re not important. End of the day they both kill things just as dead as each other. Nothing I’ve shot with my WSM has got up and said I wish you’d used a rem mag, They just don’t get up. Both will do the job you are looking for. So just pick one and go kill some stuff with it.............. in saying all that the WSM is better :thumbsup:

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Also let me no what animals speak english and what their preferences of tea are bell or dilmah? Id like to barter and save some gun powder rather than knock on their chest with a rem mag without an invite. Maybe if i tried using the wsm itd be a head shot ? Its the age old debate eh the wsm damn cool they both do the job as above

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Originally Posted by Southern-Hunter

Thanks for the info guys. My mate has a tikka t3 300wsm and he rates it. I’ve had a couple shots with it and was bloody surprised how much it kicked (going from 308 to that). I was looking at getting the t3x lite in one of these calibers as I don’t have the coin to splash out on something too crazy

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I have the T3x Lite in 7mm Rem Mag. As others said before - the recoil is significant but feels surprisingly gentle. Actually my .30-06 is kicking harder.

When buying the Tikka I was a little unsure whether to decide on 7mm Rem Mag or some .30 cal. It's a pretty lightweight rifle so the recoil is definately something to consider. Thus I decided on the 7mm Rem Mag and I am very happy I did. That being said a .300 WSM won't be a bad choice at all. It will kick a bit harder but in a hunting situation you won't feel much difference. Might be different when target shooting, though. The performance of both calibers is pretty similar anyway.

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I have the T3x Lite in 7mm Rem Mag. As others said before - the recoil is significant but feels surprisingly gentle. Actually my .30-06 is kicking harder.

When buying the Tikka I was a little unsure whether to decide on 7mm Rem Mag or some .30 cal. It's a pretty lightweight rifle so the recoil is definately something to consider. Thus I decided on the 7mm Rem Mag and I am very happy I did. That being said a .300 WSM won't be a bad choice at all. It will kick a bit harder but in a hunting situation you won't feel much difference. Might be different when target shooting, though. The performance of both calibers is pretty similar anyway.

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The wsm may give you more projectile choice while mag feeding also depending on make of rifle