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Bloody poachers!!
Watched it and I thought that they could have done a far better job of it.
I recon , spare us 1 minute more john c . Good to see the momentum shift though , bloody scary the reaction this sort of thing on bloody old Facebook has though, pricks think it's there god given right
it may up the ante though. if they are likely to lose their guns, dogs and vehicles, what will they do to get away. maybe threats with firearms?
Crap did i miss it. Just realised the time
Edit: thank the good lord for tv3 +1
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Originally Posted by Rushy
Agreed
Google up the front page of the Nelson evening mail last Saturday.
It will come to a gunfight eventually in some places.
Quick draw mikee
Can anyone chuck up a link to the cambel a we while back on 1080? asked wife to record but she recorded the news, and tonights one,worked late.
Legend Moonhunt :thumbsup:
No worries mate, had to tear myself away from my reloading bench sometime :)Quote:
Originally Posted by moonhunt
Hidden cameras are a good idea. Also be nice to know that your car is being watched, should put up signs with contact details.
That wasnt the best news story ive ever seen. Could've done with it being a bit more in depth
I wish people would not throw a noose around poaching and rustling together.
To me they are quite simply two different things.
A pig hunters dogs may chase a pig onto a Farmers property and catch it leaving the hunter no choice but to jump the fence often with a firearm to dispatch it to get his dogs back. The pig is not owned by the farmer and is in fact a noxious animal.
We had an incident of this nature a few years back with a farmer who shot dogs in a nearby Kiwi Reserve next to his property they were on a pig that had run from a farm where they had permission to hunt. The Farmer clearly broke the law but was not prosecuted.
A few years ago I had a run in with a farmer. I had shot a duck out of our possie on a lake where it glided well out into a farmers paddock. I went to retrieve it and met the new sharemilker who was a real dancer. It is according to the law illegal to leave a wounded bird or animal without dispatching it. Asking for permission is to find an wounded animal is fair enough but in this case it was impossible as it is in many cases.
Ducks, wild pigs, wild deer, trout belong to no man except the man who takes them legally. If the animal is not taken legally.Trespass or poaching are probably the correct descriptions.
Whereas Sheep, cattle, domestic pigs, Llamas you name it do belong to someone and is quite a different thing.
Trespass, Theft and rustling are the correct descriptions.
I think there will be an increase in poaching and rustling in the future. I noticed and increase in stock thefts and poaching when I was farming. This was when 1080 was used to sterilize the traditional hunting grounds and the huge once (Govt owned Forests like Kaiangaroa) were closed to hunters.
Some people (I am one) must hunt. It is some primeval urge that continues to send me out into the hills and I cannot/willnot live without it. I have never touched another mans stock but I will use the Queens Chain, papers roads and other legal accesses to travel through properties into public land to hunt. Often with permission from a farmer or if not freely given I will go without it.
Our wise ancestors came from a land where game, fish, and the right to hunt them belonged only to the titled and the rich. They were determined that would never happen in NZ. Hence we have those wonderful provision, that our birds game and fish would belong to no man except those who take it legally. This is changing, and its for the worst. Large areas of public land are now out of the reach of many hunters because those (Moaner on the Mudflats) who often act illegally by doing so, shut them out.
Many of our rivers are only utilized by a select few Fishing Guides with their wealthy clients. Many a public access through Big stations have a locked gate on them now because they have sold the hunting concession on private land to a well heeled few who also are able to take advantage of the Public land that the average hunter is excluded from.
Just a few thoughts I have on the matter. Its a bit disjointed I am afraid.
All the hype around poaching has increased in the last few years.
I sympathize with land owners etc but there are some real fuck wits who see a car or ute drive past their place and they roar down the road after them or spin yarns at the pub made up of bullshit.
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Funny but in those good old bad old days of Meathunting in the seventies and eighties the worst people you had to look out for were the Police. Its bloody hard to catch a Policeman poaching but we got the worst one in the end.
Taihape had one that made more out of poached deer and made more than his salary again. But then of course it was easy for him he was out most night looking for Poachers. Makes it a bit hard for the average Joe Bloggs to do much about it they are bloody hard to arrest.
The West Coast seemed to have the most enthusiastic poacher/anti poacher Police Force I ever knew. I think every Policeman that was a hunter and was in the know about the game must have gravitated down there.
Yup there is a man who still lives down Haast way that was one of the worst or best which ever way you wanna look at it. 😆
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I wish this was the case in our Kaingaroa Forest. Fn baby's who've been hunting 5minutes totally fn things for the rest. Wish they'd Take guns, knives, utes etc. I know they have been taking some of some young wankers but they need to get even harder so we can have our pigs grow and allow our forest and workers a safe secure way of life...Quote:
Originally Posted by moonhunt
Kaiangaroa is under Maori ownership now, so who's a poacher and who is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Maybe you can tell me the answer to that one mate.
One certainly hopes things don't carry on with current trends. I know the new security boss and they know what they want. But Only as a community will we see the change needed.
Well as one who live on the near the northern access to Te Urewera National Park I would say this. 'You are more likely to witness the second coming of Christ than to find a Tuhoe with a Legitimate Hunting Permit on Tuhoe Land...and why would they have one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
That paticular d you talk about passed his genes onto to his son as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
He got busted going onto a maori block a couple of years ago and got quite indignant that he got told to rack off except the bloke telling him was twice his size so he lost that battle.
I might join the police force!
Yes he was a right bad bastard that Cop and so was his Son. Its not that I had that much against Poacher's but he sure interfered with my own line of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Yep it was the line of work to be in those days. I don't think you could get in the force Andy They have an ugly Quotum test.
I grew up in an era when Kaingaroa, South Head, etc where only legally available to hunt legally by a privileged few, even though they were state forests. It was a battle of wits at times but the wild animals that lived there were classed as noxious under the law, and needed to be removed by other than the privileged few.
Its happened for years. You pull up at a locked gate, park the Landcruiser and start humping your swag up to the hut a couple of hour away and get overtaken by a vehicle, Later on at the hut you ask the driver and four of his mates how they got through the Gate.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
Oh we have got a couple of mates who work for DOC and they gave us the key.
Or you go thompson track style and chop the gate posts off at the ground. [emoji2]Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
