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    Commercial Shooting Rates

    Hey Fellas

    A good mate of mine runs a pest control business in the big smoke. He is getting quite a few requests for some shooting work and as such want to set up for a bit of shooting control. I can help him with the rifle/gear and license side but hes after a bit of guidance around rates etc. Probably even help him out with a bit of the shooting if hes lucky

    Does anyone have any insight on what he should be looking to charge? If you could PM me any details that would be awesome. Cheers

    Edit: will be primarily rabbits with the odd possum, clients specifically asking for shooting control over bait/poison

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    More info required.
    What type of shooting
    What gear is needed
    Distance to jobs
    How build up
    How much preshooting work required; signage and when does it need to go up. Who has to be notified

    That's just off the top of my head
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wirehunt View Post
    More info required.
    What type of shooting
    What gear is needed
    Distance to jobs
    How build up
    How much preshooting work required; signage and when does it need to go up. Who has to be notified

    That's just off the top of my head
    These are the good questions man cheers. All the things only a commercial shooter would think of.

    Will be semi rural/lifestyle with the odd rural block. Be 22 subs on rabbit mostly with the odd possum but he has also had inquiries about goat control. Thats another discussion though

    distance wise he has a callout fee I believe, ost will be within 45 min drive, pretty standard for aucks.

    Ill have to get him to find out about the regs for shooting signage etc

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    I charge an hourly rate, plus travel, ammunition, time spent contacting neighbours/researching boundaries etc.

    It is essential to first visit the properties in the daytime to get the hang of safe shooting zones, boundaries, water tanks and water lines. Also to assess the extent of the problem and what species of pests are around.
    For example, the client may say possums are stripping his fruit trees but a closer look reveals that pukeko or the kids next door are actually the problem! I do this first visit for free to build up goodwill.

    Night shooting is often the best option but you need to be careful that you're not out shooting until 1 am. and finally home to bed at 3 am. which leaves you pretty buggered for your day job. If there's only a few possums or rabbits you still have to charge a decent amount...those critters can easily end up costing the client $50 each. Don't count on making extra $$ by plucking the possums either, it's not what you're there for and good shooting time can be wasted by trying to retrieve old poss from the top of a hawthorn hedge!

    Sometimes a few well-placed traps can be set in the afternoon and checked the next morning thereby saving the client money and letting you catch up on your beauty sleep.
    Finally you need to discuss if the dead critters need to be removed and disposed of. All takes time.
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    I do some of this work in Auckland my self, all the info the others have put forward is good to go. We also ring the cops and let them know who/what/where and a expected time frame give them a call when completed also.
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    To be honest. This sort or pest control is what most hunters would do for free.

    If its only possums and rabbits you'd probably end up with a decent number of shooters for no cost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian 22. View Post
    To be honest. This sort or pest control is what most hunters would do for free.

    If its only possums and rabbits you'd probably end up with a decent number of shooters for no cost
    Yep. A bunch of people either don't know this or dont like the idea of letting a hunter on to shoot their land. Remembering that the majority of people in this country are 2nd gen urbanised now.

    The demand is there for him so he might as well take up the work. Good excuse to get the company to pay for his gun license too. He's pretty keen on the old hunting malarkey after a couple of good trips
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    Thanks all. Heaps to go on. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian 22. View Post
    To be honest. This sort or pest control is what most hunters would do for free.

    If its only possums and rabbits you'd probably end up with a decent number of shooters for no cost
    The biggest issue with that solution is persistence. The recreational and casual hunter will take the easy ones but usually gives up well short of challenge levels.....When it gets difficult to get the last few that is when it show s up as when they re-establish, they are generally smarter and harder to get (Gunshy/ baitshy) I recently had a mate approached by someone who wanted to knock over some of his pesky piggys. To which he replied " Yes IF you get ALL of them." Dont just take the first easy ones then give up on the rest. He has seen what "educated" pigs will do and how hard they are to remove. He used to be a commercial / professional culler and knows how hard it can be to get levels down to non sustainable population levels. And it aint easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick-D View Post
    Yep. A bunch of people either don't know this or dont like the idea of letting a hunter on to shoot their land. Remembering that the majority of people in this country are 2nd gen urbanised now.

    The demand is there for him so he might as well take up the work. Good excuse to get the company to pay for his gun license too. He's pretty keen on the old hunting malarkey after a couple of good trips
    Well to me the only difference between a hunter and a pest controller is the fact that you pay the last guy and he usually gets more.

    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    The biggest issue with that solution is persistence. The recreational and casual hunter will take the easy ones but usually gives up well short of challenge levels.....When it gets difficult to get the last few that is when it show s up as when they re-establish, they are generally smarter and harder to get (Gunshy/ baitshy) I recently had a mate approached by someone who wanted to knock over some of his pesky piggys. To which he replied " Yes IF you get ALL of them." Dont just take the first easy ones then give up on the rest. He has seen what "educated" pigs will do and how hard they are to remove. He used to be a commercial / professional culler and knows how hard it can be to get levels down to non sustainable population levels. And it aint easy.
    True. Depends on the end goal. Most situations it's only realistically controlling and not eradication

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian 22. View Post
    To be honest. This sort or pest control is what most hunters would do for free.

    If its only possums and rabbits you'd probably end up with a decent number of shooters for no cost
    Most urban fringe type people won't allow hunters on their patch now after the media beat up over poachers and the like over the last few years. Now, you need to be able to show an appropriate licence(s), range of options such as non-lethal removal (yes yes we all know that they get killed later), poisoning, and not just shooting. That means getting into poison/stations, traps both catch and kill, holding insurances and having a website that looks good and has sensitivity around blood and guts as well as signage, health and safety manuals, contracts, service charge list, operating times and notifications, blah blah. Basically the full service where the landowner hands over cash, their problem goes away and there ain't no issues at all including exposure to the nasty bits...
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    We don't use .22rf with subs, way to dangerous. Nothing like hearing a bullet whizzing out into space and your going where the fuck will that stop.
    PCP is a much safer option.
    Thermal works as people don't get all stirred up by the light flashing around AND you'll have a much much higher success rate including finding rats and mice.
    Email the cops because paper trail, we have two email addys and both get used every time. Depending on when the shoot is happening, if it's over the weekend then I send them on the Friday. Through the week its on the morning of the shoot. No need to name shooters as sometimes they change but the company and a contact at the company should be included.
    There is a lot of blocks we now don't shoot as it's marginal and people are getting toey about firearms, couple of ferrets, couple of small dogs and a longnet...
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    Best advice from Tim and wirehunt. Non commercial guys tire quickly once numbers drop..tend to make the problem worse long term..want to bring their mates too..
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