Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and can it mean the deer is unsafe to eat?
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Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and can it mean the deer is unsafe to eat?
Pics??
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under the skin is exactly the same colour
Two different deer legs in slideshow, the one on the left looks normal to me and the one of the right looks darker?
Looks fucked mate, did you get it cooled quickly? Did you take the joint apart if you didnt?
Yeah it looked different when I first cut its back legs off just after I killed it.
Local deer? Did you look at any other organs etc? Under the ham there are lymph nodes. Were they swollen? Looks pretty grey.
If in doubt, biff it out.
Yeah im with you Rushy
You didnt get that at the start of your two week mission did ya ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Remington700.270
I got it last night. Not sure about lymph nodes. I am picking you haven't seen sort of thing before!
It might just be that Im viewing on my phone but looks normal where you have knifed meat off and like you got guts or grubby hands on the joint and stained the membrane over the joint?
It seems all the membranes in this animal are the same grey, off white colour. I just took a couple of pics. One of the inside of the skin and the tendon. The tendon, end on is almost black. I am not going to eat it. Damn it all!
Both look the same to me, but I'm color blind, they both look white
yearling?
On Pc now,doesn't look right. while its unlikely to be anything that would harm you if its cooked properly I wouldn't eat it till you can get some definite advice.
take em down to your local butchers(but not into the shop) and ask if they have seen it before.
There is nothing wrong with it !!!! What cause's the bones and fattey tissue under the skin to be a yellowish colour is age . What i mean by age is the animal itself might be 15 ....18 years old , now for a deer thats old .
I have seen it many many times befor ..:thumbsup:
If it's 15-18yrs old give it to the mother in law :D
It was a yearling hind. In the magazine I have a photo of its face. It was real skinny. I have tried googling every key word that I can think of and I can't find anything about a disease or condition that causes this.
Didnt look like a yearling to me mate. Face was too long I reckon. Looked old as...Quote:
Originally Posted by Remington700.270
Bones are yellow? If that's the case I'd say that's fine, and personally I wouldn't worry about it. It really looks like an older deer, its face is too defined to be a young deer, and being skinny this time of year it's generally more likely to be an older animal.
Oh yes maybe it was older, It just looked so small to me and like it had never been bred. Come to think of it, I probably wouldn't be able to tell that anyway I guess. I must have been so old that even it's bones were going grey!
I shot a real old Fallow once and it was similar. Meat was all kinda washed out. I fed it to the dogs...
I was going to suggest old age too, as i have shot a couple like this. I gave Alan Jackson a pile of jaw bones at the Sika show this year and two of them came back at 12y +. I couldnt match the the jaws up to exact animals but at a guess id say the two jaws at 12y + were off the animals with yellow/grey looking bones.
Often on sick animals the meat also looks a little wierd, so have a look at the meat too and see what that looks like, compare it with the meat from the stag.
She was probably a barron hind hence the reason it looked like she hadnt had a fawn.
Thanks guys. I just spoke to a lady at the Ministry of Primary Industries in the pests and diseases department. She said the grey colour is a sign that the animals immunity is working over time and has been for a long time. It would have been ill for a while for sustained permanent liver damage. She said it may not be anything like TB but it means that the deer has been sick or struggling for a while. I asked her if a sub lethal dose of 1080 may have caused that to occur and she said it could well have. Regardless of course she said that I should not eat it.
Yes the meat was washed out, cutting it into steaks was impossible it just didn't hold itself together at all!
Never dump scungie venison. Pack, mark well and freeze. This is the meat you give to those family members and friends who are always on the scab...once you tell them the story behind the gift of meat, they never ask again...works for me. :o
Interesting.
Don't spos you looked at the liver ?
Her face looks gaunt in the photo you posted.
I agree, biff it out.
700,270 . Couple of questions you should have asked her .Quote:
Originally Posted by Remington700.270
How old are you ? Answer , 21 just out of unie ! :)
Have you ever seen a dead deer ? Answer , NO . :wtfsmilie:
If it was 1080 , how much would i need to eat to grow an extra toe ? Answer , 365kg . :omg:
Should i eat it ?. Answer , Ohh no Its meat , im only eat veggeies so should you . :sick:
Well who should i ask ? Answer ohh other hunters !!:ORLY:
Why did you ask us ??????
From what I can tell its just an old deer. Have shot a few like that and a couple even the dog turned its nose up at. Biff it or give it to someone who keeps asking you for Venison and you don`t really like them. They won`t ask again.
When you say two different legs are they from the same animal. I cant look at u-tube here but will when I get home.
What was the liver and kidneys like.
Were there any signs of old wounds?
If you follow the ham string down the back leg there is a seam between the muscles. The popliteal lymph node sits in there. Normal ones are about the size of a pea or smaller. These are part of the immune system and if enlarged indicate some kind of infection.
The if in doubt chuck it out philosophy is sound.
Cheers,
Tony.
Wow guys, just learnt some excellent stuff to look out for in future, this is what this forum is for......