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    Deer repellant..Crock of crap

    Always heard deer repellant on 1080 was crap and doesnt work that well. Someone i know went for a walk up the Cobb Valley after the 1080 drop(deer repellant used they say) and found 3 dead carcasses of fallow. Havnt seen him for awhile and he was up there 3 weeks after the drop. Very little sign of deer aroundand if he came across 3 there be shit lots more but numbers were low . esp for fallow after the first drop last year. Sad story

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    Yes Deer Repellant was designed by fuckwits to help the brown nose brigade brainwash the public.....
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    I understand the repellant used is based on pigs blood.

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    my deer repellent is rexona,works every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marky123 View Post
    my deer repellent is rexona,works every time.
    Works the same on the babes too aye.

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    really, having been in an area where it was used i can confirm

    1, yes there was deaths,
    2 the death level was no where near that of non deer repellant areas

    Its not like the bates run away when a deer comes near or has a sign sayinmg "dont eat me"

    If it was a choice i would say deer repellant every time

    amazing how all of a sudden 3 dead deer equals it dosent work

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    Exactly, Hamish. How many might have died if it had not been used?

    Its classical inductive reasoning to start with a conclusion that we wish was true, and then to select the evidence that supports it.

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    I would prefer it to be used. There will always be some deaths from using poison in this way but at least there will be plenty left to breed. The average time for a deer population to recover after a 1080 operation is about 3-4 years so if the repellent saves lives recovery time should be less. Nobody likes poison but I think a population of deer with a large % carrying TB would be a lot worse.
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    There's a Ph.D. Student at Lincoln at the moment studying exactly that I.e. How effective (or not) it is. There's bugger all field data either way at the moment, so will be interesting to see what she actually finds. Radio collaring deer pre and post operation.

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    That sure will be interesting to see those results.

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    The deer and possums are both introduced pests anyway aren't they?

    Sounds like a win win for the native bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    The deer and possums are both introduced pests anyway aren't they?

    Sounds like a win win for the native bush.
    And here i was, thinking you were getting a rough deal with all these window lickers giving u shit because you didnt fit their mould. But with that comment.... man you are different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    The deer and possums are both introduced pests anyway aren't they?

    Sounds like a win win for the native bush.
    Well no.
    New Zealand native bush is evolved to be browsed. Removal of those browsers by hunting to extinction severely altered the understory.
    This void is well filled by deer in moderate numbers helping maintain a healthy forest balance.
    Too many is bad of course and equally bad is none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Well no.
    New Zealand native bush is evolved to be browsed. Removal of those browsers by hunting to extinction severely altered the understory.
    This void is well filled by deer in moderate numbers helping maintain a healthy forest balance.
    Too many is bad of course and equally bad is none.

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    Evolved to be browsed?

    Browsed by what? Weta?

    The bush evolved over millions and millions of years. Are you suggesting that in the last 150 years it has suddenly changed and evolved to be browsed by deer, goats, feral sheep and cattle etc?

    Or is the damaged caused no more than a few moa did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    The deer and possums are both introduced pests anyway aren't they?

    Sounds like a win win for the native bush.
    Humans too including the troll type are pests. We have done FAR more damage than any other introduced pests. You could say the same about our farming habits. Even our favorite recreation of shooting puts lead into the environment... The "native bush" will never be the same, it'e been changed for ever.
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