Thread: Deer in Southern areas?

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Figured. Thought maybe something else I could `t knew as out-lander. Really, shoot farmer `s stock? by accident, or intentional? No compensations to farmers at all, a sheep is `t that expensive. Alright, do `t want become another xxx. Want to make sure with you guys, so here is the scenario.

Someday, I miscalculated on map because compass reading, and walked into a private land, sadly killed or injured a sheep or cow by accident, and I find the landlord or he/ she finds me, and then I say "sorry" , willing to pay for the damages. So, what `s the odds they will accept me to come again?

Assuming you mean "by accident" with a firearm, I would be telling you to f off and calling the police. If you are incompentent enough to injure or kill a sheep or cow by accident I don't want you anywhere near my property.

A sheep is worth from $150 for a lamb to several thousand dollars for a stud ram, cows are worth from a few hundred for a weaner calf to thousands

Originally Posted by Cigar

Assuming you mean "by accident" with a firearm, I would be telling you to f off and calling the police. If you are incompentent enough to injure or kill a sheep or cow by accident I don't want you anywhere near my property.

A sheep is worth from $150 for a lamb to several thousand dollars for a stud ram, cows are worth from a few hundred for a weaner calf to thousands

Come down.. chill. Just ask, the "F" word would `t be necessary. As said, any damage will be covered and beyond. If it was me caused loses, 150 dollars, 1,500 dollars or more, we can talk nicely to solve it, Only an accident, can I?
Alright, by what you said sir, I shall stay away from farmland. Again, just assumption, now I knew. Have nice weekend.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Come down.. chill. Just ask, the "F" word would `t be necessary. As said, any damage will be covered and beyond. If it was me caused loses, 150 dollars, 1,500 dollars or more, we can talk nicely to solve it, Only an accident, can I?
Alright, by what you said sir, I shall stay away from farmland. Again, just assumption, now I knew. Have nice weekend.

Cheers

Sorry man but you must have violated some aspect of the firearms code such as 'checking firing zone' or 'identifying target beyond all doubt' to harm livestock unless it was a freak accident, like accidental discharge and the bullet just happened to hit a non-target animal. Please be careful, you might end up shooting a person one day if mistakes like that are repeated.

Now that I think about it, some areas have feral sheep to be hunted, so I could only understand being on the border between farmland and docland with sheep and a privately owned sheep makes itself visible?

Originally Posted by JessicaChen

Sorry man but you must have violated some aspect of the firearms code such as 'checking firing zone' or 'identifying target beyond all doubt' to harm livestock unless it was a freak accident, like accidental discharge and the bullet just happened to hit a non-target animal. Please be careful, you might end up shooting a person one day if mistakes like that are repeated.

Now that I think about it, some areas have feral sheep to be hunted, so I could only understand being on the border between farmland and docland with sheep and a privately owned sheep makes itself visible?

like when stalking in bush and come out to edge and see a deer through light screen of foilage....but not the deer fence between you and deer LOL..... why it really pays to know where you are at all times.

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Come down.. chill. Just ask, the "F" word would `t be necessary. As said, any damage will be covered and beyond. If it was me caused loses, 150 dollars, 1,500 dollars or more, we can talk nicely to solve it, Only an accident, can I?
Alright, by what you said sir, I shall stay away from farmland. Again, just assumption, now I knew. Have nice weekend.

Cheers

Eh???
I hope you realise I wasn't actually telling you to F off, I was explaining what my response would be if I was a farmer under your scenario.
The response from most farmers would be similar, and I doubt any farmer would be inviting you back. It probably wouldn't matter anyway as you would likely have your firearms license revoked by the police.
Your scenario is a very serious situation, the penalty for discharging a firearm on land without the owners permission is up to $100,000 or 2 years jail or both, and that's without injuring or killing livestock.

Originally Posted by Cigar

Eh???
I hope you realise I wasn't actually telling you to F off, I was explaining what my response would be if I was a farmer under your scenario.
The response from most farmers would be similar, and I doubt any farmer would be inviting you back. It probably wouldn't matter anyway as you would likely have your firearms license revoked by the police.
Your scenario is a very serious situation, the penalty for discharging a firearm on land without the owners permission is up to $100,000 or 2 years jail or both, and that's without injuring or killing livestock.

Yes. I understand how serious of this scenario, and I do appreciate the situation of what I may be facing if I neglects safety responsibility. As said, I respect local culture and rules of law. May you sir will think how a grownup will ask about this? Because Gimp said there was farmer`s stock been shot by hunter, so following that I ask bit further. Just to try to learn more for the local culture.
Again, I will never do that. Even I am not big fun for GPS, but at least I know how to use compass on map, and I have all the high definition maps for every blocks I may go. printed in waterproof, stored in my backpack. Thank you and good day.

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Yes. I understand how serious of this scenario, and I do appreciate the situation of what I may be facing if I neglects safety responsibility. As said, I respect local culture and rules of law. May you sir will think how a grownup will ask about this? Because Gimp said there was farmer`s stock been shot by hunter, so following that I ask bit further. Just to try to learn more for the local culture.
Again, I will never do that. Even I am not big fun for GPS, but at least I know how to use compass on map, and I have all the high definition maps for every blocks I may go. printed in waterproof, stored in my backpack. Thank you and good day.

I never said anything about stock being shot until someone else bought it up...

Originally Posted by gimp

I never said anything about stock being shot until someone else bought it up...

Maybe I read wrong from your reply on Page2 for the question of why farmers blocked access. I really do `t know people will shoot farmer `s stock in NZ, poachers as far as I heard are those hunting for wild animals in private land without permission. Two of my friend in North said their block was visited regularly by pig hunters since they do `t live on the land. Neighbors told them