Thread: Explaining Hunting to Vegetarians and Animal People

Originally Posted by Scouser

That tw@t kills on canned hunts for trophies.......He's not a 'real' Hunter. ......He's a glory hunter........

That's not actually true. He paid for a guided lion hunt on a not fenced in private land. The guides decided the best way to get a lion in front of this bloke was to kill an antelope, drive it into the national park where the lions were and drag it back to the private land so that the lion followed it out. While not ideal and not what he paid for but it's not a canned hunt by my definition and it's also not a lot different to a farmer putting salt licks out on the bush edge to attract deer or me feeding my duck pond to attract ducks.

The meat hunters don't like the trophy hunters cos they only take the antlers.
The trophy hunters don't like the meat hunters cos they shoot stags in velvet.
The deer hunters think duck hunters are lazy boozy bastards who just like shooting things.
The duck hunters think the deer hunters don't have the patience to wait for a duck and the skill to call it in.
Nobody likes the waro guys.

And the idiots on facebook don't understand how there can be any difference between any of the above groups. Can't we all just get along?

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

The meat hunters don't like the trophy hunters cos they only take the antlers.
The trophy hunters don't like the meat hunters cos they shoot stags in velvet.
The deer hunters think duck hunters are lazy boozy bastards who just like shooting things.
The duck hunters think the deer hunters don't have the patience to wait for a duck and the skill to call it

I have found the best answer to the above is to be all of the above!

As for dealing with veggies and greenies, I find the easiest way is to tell them that you don't push your morals apon them, they should do the same. I had a vegan fella end up coming on a few trips into Koranga forks area maybe half a dozen times, following JoshCs logic. He loved it, and realised killing wasn't the goal, and the act of taking a life wasn't relished. It was everything before and after that point in time that makes it addictive to most hunters.

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

That's not actually true. He paid for a guided lion hunt on a not fenced in private land. The guides decided the best way to get a lion in front of this bloke was to kill an antelope, drive it into the national park where the lions were and drag it back to the private land so that the lion followed it out. While not ideal and not what he paid for but it's not a canned hunt by my definition and it's also not a lot different to a farmer putting salt licks out on the bush edge to attract deer or me feeding my duck pond to attract ducks.

The meat hunters don't like the trophy hunters cos they only take the antlers.
The trophy hunters don't like the meat hunters cos they shoot stags in velvet.
The deer hunters think duck hunters are lazy boozy bastards who just like shooting things.
The duck hunters think the deer hunters don't have the patience to wait for a duck and the skill to call it in.
Nobody likes the waro guys.

And the idiots on facebook don't understand how there can be any difference between any of the above groups. Can't we all just get along?

Can I get the 1 bazillion like button

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

The meat hunters don't like the trophy hunters cos they only take the antlers.
The trophy hunters don't like the meat hunters cos they shoot stags in velvet.
The deer hunters think duck hunters are lazy boozy bastards who just like shooting things.
The duck hunters think the deer hunters don't have the patience to wait for a duck and the skill to call it in.
Nobody likes the waro guys.

And the idiots on facebook don't understand how there can be any difference between any of the above groups. Can't we all just get along?

Like it. And as for people getting along. They never have and never will. With exceptions of cause.

[QUOTE=MassiveAttack;384961]That's not actually true. He paid for a guided lion hunt on a not fenced in private land. The guides decided the best way to get a lion in front of this bloke was to kill an antelope, drive it into the national park where the lions were and drag it back to the private land so that the lion followed it out.

That is not the story I read, not saying your wrong here, just that he's a Glory hunter because he makes sure his 'kills' become public knowledge........ego stroker......

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Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

That's not actually true. He paid for a guided lion hunt on a not fenced in private land. The guides decided the best way to get a lion in front of this bloke was to kill an antelope, drive it into the national park where the lions were and drag it back to the private land so that the lion followed it out.

That is not the story I read, not saying your wrong here, just that he's a Glory hunter because he makes sure his 'kills' become public knowledge........ego stroker......

If any of us shot our stag of a lifetime we would want to share it with all and sundry so in that sense we are all glory hunters and ego strokers. I still don't see much of a difference.

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Originally Posted by Scouser

If any of us shot our stag of a lifetime we would want to share it with all and sundry so in that sense we are all glory hunters and ego strokers. I still don't see much of a difference.

Do you have a blog you put all your kills on?.....didnt think so...this guy only goes for SCI scores to 'brag' on his website 'how fukin great he is'.......dont see many (if any) doing that in NZ...i'm probably wrong though!

Im done discussing this yank prick, you all know where i stand.....

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Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

Do you have a blog you put all your kills on?.....didnt think so...this guy only goes for SCI scores to 'brag' on his website 'how fukin great he is'.......dont see many (if any) doing that in NZ...i'm probably wrong though!

Im done discussing this yank prick, you all know where i stand.....

Yes, last year I posted a hunting diary on the old fish n hunt forum and on that thread I posed a pick of everything I shot that year. I did this because I know my mates on the forum wanted to see the pics and share the experiance and also when I shoot a bunch of gooses I am proud and want to share because gooses are hard to shoot.

I didn't bother this year because fish n hunt forum has gone to shit but thats the only reason.

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Originally Posted by Scouser

Yes, last year I posted a hunting diary on the old fish n hunt forum and on that thread I posed a pick of everything I shot that year. I did this because I know my mates on the forum wanted to see the pics and share the experiance and also when I shoot a bunch of gooses I am proud and want to share because gooses are hard to shoot.

I didn't bother this year because fish n hunt forum has gone to shit but thats the only reason.

It did that long long ago, hence we are here

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Originally Posted by Scouser

Yes, last year I posted a hunting diary on the old fish n hunt forum and on that thread I posed a pick of everything I shot that year. I did this because I know my mates on the forum wanted to see the pics and share the experiance and also when I shoot a bunch of gooses I am proud and want to share because gooses are hard to shoot.

I didn't bother this year because fish n hunt forum has gone to shit but thats the only reason.

Good for you mate, we will obviously have to agree to disagree.....