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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    So I'll quote you in my divorce papers then? "its ryan's fault"



    (my wife has become vegan)

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    Its a waste of time explaining it or trying to justify it. Just say, I like it so I do it. Just like they like to not eat meat etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    + 1 Fixed it @Gibo .. Mates missus said the other day how come you have only 20 or so friends on facebook. I have like 2000 she said.
    I replied ummm mine are actually friends not imaginary friends you know like real people you ummm actually know..
    . I know them and face plant is simply a vehicle to stay in touch and talk as most are not in the same place ... yep she went quiet ...
    hahahaha

    Good one Happy

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    I replied If they are really your friends you could easily Name Them.

    He said What!

    it was then that I pointed out that I was easily able to name ALL of my friends and give their addresses.

    He didn't really have an answer for this but I could see he was thinking about it a little more critically.

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    No Discussion on Vegans would be complete without.....

    He sat down.
    The waiter approached.
    'Would you like to see the menu?' he said,
    'or would you like meet the Dish of the Day?'

    'Huh?' said Ford.
    'Huh?' said Arthur.
    'Huh?' said Trillian.
    'That's cool,' said Zaphod, 'we'll meet the meat.'

    - snip -

    A large dairy animal approached Zaphod Beeblebrox's table,
    a large fat meaty quadruped of the bovine type with
    large watery eyes, small horns and what might almost have
    been an ingratiating smile on its lips.

    'Good evening', it lowed and sat back heavily on its haunches,
    'I am the main Dish of the Day. May I interest you in the parts
    of my body?'

    It harrumphed and gurgled a bit, wriggled its hind quarters in
    to a more comfortable position and gazed peacefully at them.

    Its gaze was met by looks of startled bewilderment from
    Arthur and Trillian, a resigned shrug from Ford Prefect and
    naked hunger from Zaphod Beeblebrox.

    'Something off the shoulder perhaps?' suggested the animal,
    'Braised in a white wine sauce?'

    'Er, your shoulder?' said Arthur in a horrified whisper.

    'But naturallymy shoulder, sir,' mooed the animal contentedly,
    'nobody else's is mine to offer.'

    Zaphod leapt to his feet and started prodding and feeling
    the animal's shoulder appreciatively.

    'Or the rump is very good,' murmured the animal. 'I've been
    exercising it and eating plenty of grain, so there's a lot
    of good meat there.'

    It gave a mellow grunt, gurgled again and started to chew
    the cud. It swallowed the cud again.

    'Or a casselore of me perhaps?' it added.

    'You mean this animal actually wants us to eat it?' whispered
    Trillian to Ford.

    'Me?' said Ford, with a glazed look in his eyes, 'I don't mean
    anything.'

    'That's absolutely horrible,' exclaimed Arthur, 'the most revolting
    thing I've ever heard.'

    'What's the problem Earthman?' said Zaphod, now transfering his
    attention to the animal's enormous rump.

    'I just don't want to eat an animal that's standing there
    inviting me to,' said Arthur, 'It's heartless.'

    'Better than eating an animal that doesn't want to be
    eaten,' said Zaphod.

    'That's not the point,' Arthur protested. Then he thought about it
    for a moment. 'Alright,' he said, 'maybe it is the point. I don't
    care, I'm not going to think about it now. I'll just ... er ... I
    think I'll just have a green salad,' he muttered.

    'May I urge you to consider my liver?' asked the animal,
    'it must be very rich and tender by now, I've been force-feeding
    myself for months.'

    'A green salad,' said Arthur emphatically.

    'A green salad?' said the animal, rolling his eyes disapprovingly
    at Arthur.

    'Are you going to tell me,' said Arthur, 'that I shouldn't have
    green salad?'

    'Well,' said the animal, 'I know many vegetables that are
    very clear on that point. Which is why it was eventually
    decided to cut through the whoile tangled problem and breed
    an animal that actually wanted to be eaten and was capable of
    saying so clearly and distinctly. And here I am.'

    It managed a very slight bow.

    'Glass of water please,' said Arthur.

    'Look,' said Zaphod, 'we want to eat, we don't want to make
    a meal of the issues. Four rare stakes please, and hurry.
    We haven't eaten in five hundred and sevebty-six thousand
    million years.'

    The animal staggered to its feet. It gave a mellow gurgle.
    'A very wise coice, sir, if I may say so. Very good,' it
    said, 'I'll just nip off and shoot myself.'

    He turned and gave a friendly wink to Arthur.
    'Don't worry, sir,' he said, 'I'll be very humane.'

    It waddled unhurriedly off to the kitchen.



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    I wouldnt touch faeces bookwith a 40'barge pole.Nought pisses me off more than having to sit round and listen to incessant crap about who said what to who on the fuckling thing!
    same at work -sheilas always on the fucking thing! min d you ,they barely tolerate me as i periodically give one or two a sool upif they get up me nose.

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    BTW-anyone see they latest shit on Cecil-some wanky journo quoting an anonymous source(not allowed to speak to journos but conveniently forgot or is $10.00 too much)says the bastards brother got bowled too.bugger me - in the next breath some rather big conservation official in charge where the bro is supposed to live says "dead -is he..news to me,..was very much alive and breathing when I saw him" ,obviously very recently!zimbabwe though -corrupt as fuck so who knows what the truth is.
    those PETA c...nts wanted to hunt the yank down and exterminate him-arseholes showing their real colours eh.
    sheila at work is always putting that SAFE shit up.
    "Specific Animals For Eating propaganda again eh what"earned me an earful,not that i give a flying fuck!
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    If you post photos of your game then also post photos of it on the plate or just out of the oven. Stops the "oh what do you do with them" brigade and also shows that you hunt for food and not for killing or live target practice as some idiots believe. Be aware that you will never appease radical eco nazi vegans. A friend of mine who is a vegan is getting shit from ultra vegans because she rides horses, has a cat and wears wool. Apparently this is taboo to ultra radical vegans. If wearing wool is a burning at the stake offence then I guess you will never convince these people that hunting is OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krameranzac View Post
    If you post photos of your game then also post photos of it on the plate or just out of the oven. Stops the "oh what do you do with them" brigade and also shows that you hunt for food and not for killing or live target practice as some idiots believe. Be aware that you will never appease radical eco nazi vegans. A friend of mine who is a vegan is getting shit from ultra vegans because she rides horses, has a cat and wears wool. Apparently this is taboo to ultra radical vegans. If wearing wool is a burning at the stake offence then I guess you will never convince these people that hunting is OK.
    Reminds me of a Simpsons episode where they took the piss....
    Lisa had a crush on a guy who was a 4th level vegan who "wouldnt eat anything that could cast a shadow"
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    @Krameranzac veganism core principles aren't about what's right for you, like vegetarianism, its about avoiding the exploitation of animals. When people are avoiding leather or wool to wear synthetics which pollute this planet in it's manufacture then there is no arguing with people like that. They can't see the forest for the trees
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    This is somewhat related to the topic, so bare with me....

    I decided to post a piece to Stuff.co.nz earlier this week in the hope of shedding a little light on the Cecil situation, touching on some relevant facts which weren't being widely reported at the time - Cecil the lion's death not 'black and white' | Stuff.co.nz

    Of the 125 comments, 3/4 of them are absolutely ludicrous, taking quotes out of context and drawing illogical conclusions. It's been quite disheartening to discover the level of stupidity that is rife here in our 'enlightened' country.

    In terms of explaining hunting to Vegetarians and animal lovers, in case it's of any help, the guys at NZ Hunter Adventures posted a nice clip about their motivations for hunting, along the same lines as the amazing Donnie Vincent piece. We've also recently posted a clip which may go some way in helping you demonstrate to a non hunter why you choose to hunt -


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hunters Club View Post
    This is somewhat related to the topic, so bare with me....

    I decided to post a piece to Stuff.co.nz earlier this week in the hope of shedding a little light on the Cecil situation, touching on some relevant facts which weren't being widely reported at the time - Cecil the lion's death not 'black and white' | Stuff.co.nz

    Of the 125 comments, 3/4 of them are absolutely ludicrous, taking quotes out of context and drawing illogical conclusions. It's been quite disheartening to discover the level of stupidity that is rife here in our 'enlightened' country.

    In terms of explaining hunting to Vegetarians and animal lovers, in case it's of any help, the guys at NZ Hunter Adventures posted a nice clip about their motivations for hunting, along the same lines as the amazing Donnie Vincent piece. We've also recently posted a clip which may go some way in helping you demonstrate to a non hunter why you choose to hunt -


    Dave - The Red Stag Timber Hunters Club
    Stupid walks amongst us and is thriving unfortunately
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hunters Club View Post
    Of the 125 comments, 3/4 of them are absolutely ludicrous, taking quotes out of context and drawing illogical conclusions. It's been quite disheartening to discover the level of stupidity that is rife here in our 'enlightened' country.
    You'll find that with comments on any news website (or public FB pages), on any topic at all! There really is a scary amount of stupid out there.
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    I think it was Einstein that once said "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

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    Humans didn't fight and claw their way to the top of the food chain just to eat grass !!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    I think it was Einstein that once said "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."
    Nice. Here's another couple of goodies I've found myself putting to use lately -

    * It's hard to win an argument with an intelligent person, it's impossible to win one with an idiot.

    * Arguing with a vegan about hunting is like playing chess with a Pigeon, it knocks over all the pieces and craps on the board, then struts around as if it's won the game

 

 

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