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Thread: Fallow or red?

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    Fallow or red?

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    Could be either in the area , funny how i have been hunting for 4 years and have never found a cast up until now and ive found 2 in the last 2 trips

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    Are there Sambar in the area?
    That’s what it looks like.

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    I'd say red. Once a fallow antler gets a couple of points it usually shows some flattening of the beam as in starting to palm.
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    I'm pegging it as a young red stag. (probably 2y/o, maybe 3)
    It could, at a stretch, be from an ancient fallow buck going backwards, but definitely much less likely. (any younger buck would show at least some form of flattening/palmation, and even an old boy would still be likely to)


    A few things I consider in favour of that -
    The pedicle seems a touch too large for even a big old fallow, but just fine for a red.
    The bez trine on fallow typically sprouts more perpendicular to the main beam, more directly outwards with less of a merged join.
    A fallow buck of sufficient age and genetics to produce a beam of that mass would likely still be forming at least the beginnings of a palm, even if he was very old and staring into his last winter.
    If it was an old fallow buck, I would expect a stronger outward angle down near the pedicle, forming a much wider span right from low down. It looks like these antlers would have been pretty narrow the whole way up, perfect for a young red.
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    For what it's worth i saw a cast Rusa antler that looked like that. Except the cast antler didn't have the first (bez) tine

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    Extremely unlikely to be anything but a red or fallow. Id assume theres more fallow in the vicinity also. It does seem quite short for a red and i thought that fallow and reds wouldn't be sharing the same tracks and areas as each other?

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    That ridge on the beam from the brow tine to the trey is unusual for a Red and the lack of palmation above the trey is unusual for a Fallow... what else do you Nth islanders have that has a pronounced ridge on the beam and lacks Bey tines and zero pearling ??
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    in this day and age..... species fluid?.....hasnt identified as red or fallow?..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by matto1234 View Post
    Extremely unlikely to be anything but a red or fallow. Id assume theres more fallow in the vicinity also. It does seem quite short for a red and i thought that fallow and reds wouldn't be sharing the same tracks and areas as each other?
    I'd say red I hunt doc land in central north island where there are red in fallow & have watch them feeding on the same clearing at the same times so they happily walk the same tacks to get there.
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    Probably the cast of a red. I would be thinking it was his first head after a spiker.

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    Red, a two year old fallow shows palmation, and if it was genetically defunct wouldn’t have points as good as that.
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