Forest and Bird

I think you are all missing the point. All the greenes want is a true wilderness. For them it must be quiet hard to look between their ears. :D:D

I think I have a headache

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Originally Posted by Rushy

The discussion is all somewhat moot for me now as I no longer employ people. Over a number of decades though, I employed a lot of people with degrees and even more people without that level of qualification. The people with degrees were employed into roles where their qualification/s brought the required level of knowledge and skill to add value to the business but I never employed people with degrees into operational management roles. That was my prerogative as the employer and my choice because my experiences had evidenced that when it comes to managing people at the lower socio economic end of the spectrum, processes and plant to produce results against critical time pressures, that domain was better suited to people that had been "in the mud" and knew what needed to be done when the shit hit the fan and who could get people to work as a team because they were his / her team and would work with him / her to make it happen. Just one man's view and as I say somewhat moot and certainly no longer relevant.

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@Rushy

I like your approach, are you ex army? Commissions for the university boys, competent non-degree holders NCOs/WOs as operational managers, the rest privates.

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Originally Posted by Cordite

@Rushy

I like your approach, are you ex army? Commissions for the university boys, competent non-degree holders NCOs/WOs as operational managers, the rest privates.

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Of course I am ex army. That was a very long time ago though.

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Originally Posted by Paddy79

I thought that was Michael Jackson they found clinging to a boy when he fell overboard?

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I am more concerned about Paddy's slight against Michael Jackson than any of the debate over degree merits !!!

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Originally Posted by Sidney

If he was obliged to use them it was for the reason that he was lacking in the ability to communicate what he was doing to the ownership, in an unbiased and independent manner.

That statement also indicates that he assumes that he knows everything, and frankly anybody that does think that, doesn't know that they don't know.

So parasites they might be, but it would be only a fool that doesn't understand the need and the value they can contribute.

Perhaps your old man could upskill so that he can use the resource more effectively?

Having recently completed a strategic management degree, I had several conversations with lecturers about the merit or otherwise of putting school kids through management qualifications, the feedback I got was that it seemed somewhat arse about face even to them. Particularly the ones from the USA or Canada where management training was usually taught as post graduate training. People came to brush up after having gained experience in their chosen field.

So I have some sympathy for Rushies perspective... 21 yr old management graduates haven't even worked yet...

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Sidney it ‘‘twas a bit tongue in cheek...and you don’t know my old man or the situation so you can just go and piss up a rope


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Originally Posted by tiroatedson

Sidney it ‘‘twas a bit tongue in cheek...and you don’t know my old man or the situation so you can just go and piss up a rope


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But Sidney has a degree

Don't mean I can't piss up a rope.... :D

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Originally Posted by tiroatedson

Sidney it ‘‘twas a bit tongue in cheek...and you don’t know my old man or the situation so you can just go and piss up a rope


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tmight have been, I have done it myself.... but usually it's in house private converstations and jokes between people who don't really believe everything they say...

but probably you do your father a disservice if you meant to represent that that was the way that he genuinely tinks, and last time I checked most Ag consultants are not fresh graduates that have 't done any ting else...

but you are welcome to point out any part of my deductive reasoning that is inaccurate based upon what you said, seeing as I don't know any ting about your fathers situation..

or you could just tell me to go and piss up a rope... cause thats really going to put me in my place...

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Originally Posted by Sidney

tmight have been, I have done it myself.... but usually it's in house private converstations and jokes between people who don't really believe everything they say...

but probably you do your father a disservice if you meant to represent that that was the way that he genuinely tinks, and last time I checked most Ag consultants are not fresh graduates that have 't done any ting else...

but you are welcome to point out any part of my deductive reasoning that is inaccurate based upon what you said, seeing as I don't know any ting about your fathers situation..

or you could just tell me to go and piss up a rope... cause thats really going to put me in my place...

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You have absolutely no idea. If I could be bothered to explain I’m sure you’d have some sort of comeback. I get the feeling that you’re being a wee bit condescending so how about we leave it here.


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