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    Forestry security Ashley forest

    Spoke to forestry security to make sure there was acess into doc area as it's sometimes closed due to forestry operations . The wanker I spoke to told me if my dog strayed into forest it would be shot end of story then hung up . I rung back in a few choice words told him that unless worrying stock that's allegal . He told me it's what they do . A few more choice words and he hung up again . What a Fucken wanker . Anyone come across this policy ?
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    Call in and see how mouthy he is face to face. I would have a smartphone in me pocket on record as well. If he carried on the same I would show it before I left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Call in and see how mouthy he is face to face. I would have a smartphone in me pocket on record as well. If he carried on the same I would show it before I left.
    True he would be a fat lazy looser who wanted to be a cop but failed every test including the child pornogrophy vetting check
    Bet he would shit himself when push came to shove !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsey View Post
    True he would be a fat lazy looser who wanted to be a cop but failed every test including the child pornogrophy vetting check
    Bet he would shit himself when push came to shove !
    Sounds like a right wanker
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    Fuck dealing with that shit.
    Find out who his boss is and go above him.

    Get the real infomation and hopfully can sort the bs
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    He is the boss he patrols balmoral as well. The Maoris own it and have are no hunting policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsey View Post
    Spoke to forestry security..........told me if my dog strayed into forest it would be shot....... told him that unless worrying stock that's allegal .....
    Sorry, but you are wrong about the “unless worrying stock,” bit.

    Below is a cut and paste from the Dog Control Act 1996 . Note the use of the words in Section 52:

    "..likely to cause annoyance or distress to any person or animal or damage to any property..." I am sure that "someone would be annoyed" . However, this clause does not give a right to destroy a dog, only seize it for impounding, unless the person acting is "....any constable, dog control officer, or dog ranger acting with the consent". I advise exercising caution until you know that the person “destroying,” is not one of these. (Especially seeing it is “Maori land”

    The right to destroy a dog is given is Sections 59 and 60. Again note the use of the words,

    "Where any dog is at large and is an immediate disturbance or threat to any protected wildlife,

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    ".. destroy any dog running at large among that stock or poultry.."


    Note, that once again there does not have to be any attack by the dog, only "immediate disturbance or threat " and "running at large".


    EXTRACT from The Dog Control Act 1996




    Obligations of owner

    52 Control of dogs generally
    (1)The owner of any dog shall keep that dog under control at all times.

    (2)Without limiting the generality of subsection (1), a dog shall, for the purposes of this Act, be deemed to be not under control—

    (a)if it is found at large on any land or premises other than a public place or a private way without the consent (express or implied) of the occupier or person in charge of that land or those premises; or
    (b)if it is found at large in any public place or in any private way in contravention of any regulation or bylaw.
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    (4)Where, in the opinion of—

    (a)the occupier of any land or premises, or of any other person acting with the authority of such occupier (whether express or implied); or

    (b)any person in any public place or in any private way,—
    a dog is likely to cause annoyance or distress to any person or animal or damage to any property on the land or premises or in any public place or in any private way, the occupier or person may seize the dog and cause the dog to be returned to its owner, or to be delivered into the custody of a dog control officer or dog ranger.


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    59 Seizure or destruction of dog at large in vicinity of protected wildlife
    (1)Where any dog is at large and is an immediate disturbance or threat to any protected wildlife,—
    (a)the occupier or person having control of the land on which the dog is, for the time being, situated, or any agent or employee of that person; or
    (b)any constable, dog control officer, or dog ranger acting with the consent of any person specified in paragraph (a),—
    may forthwith either seize or destroy that dog..."


    60 Seizure or destruction of dog running at large among stock or poultry
    (1)The owner of any stock or poultry or that owner's agent or employee, or any constable, dog control officer, or dog ranger acting at the request of that owner, may forthwith either seize or destroy any dog running at large among that stock or poultry.
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    What a load of waffle! At large.... With the pine trees?
    Immediate disturbance.... To the pine trees?!
    Go in and feel him out face to face.... May just be what they say to everyone over the phone.
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    Those guys do mean it . I've had run ins with them before. They class it as poaching as its there forest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    What a load of waffle! At large.... With the pine trees?
    Immediate disturbance.... To the pine trees?! ..................
    To you, what I post may be "waffle," but as it is is my understanding of the law, please feel free to correct me by saying where I am at fault.
    It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't.

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    They must be dumb fucks as what's point of shooting a dog . When if they catch it , they catch the owner , and if they where poaching trespass / fine whatever . There are some hard arse pig hunters and if you where to kill there dog and they got a gripe with there forest ? Who knows what they would do ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsey View Post
    They must be dumb fucks as what's point of shooting a dog . When if they catch it , they catch the owner , and if they where poaching trespass / fine whatever . There are some hard arse pig hunters and if you where to kill there dog and they got a gripe with there forest ? Who knows what they would do ?
    Unless it was a serious issue, I would be worried what I would do if some prick shot my dog just because the law said he could.


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    The first guy was right... a dog cannot be legally destroyed/shot unless it is effectively worrying stock or wildlife. Pine trees are not stock. There is no power to destroy for annoyance of people...


    If you are going to copy and paste law as rebuttal you need to read it..
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    Paul Stanley was it? if you are hunting the doc stuff you"ll be fine, you have a pointer right? Yould be really unlucky to see him up there, if you stick to the access routes that doc describe there should be no problem. you aren't supposed to walk up the road to the repeater on Mt Grey but I used to do it often just smile and wave for the camera. Leave the gorse and the pines for the dirty pig hunters

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Unless it was a serious issue, I would be worried what I would do if some prick shot my dog just because the law said he could.


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    if there is due cause for shooting the dog, fair enough.
    If not then their would be hell to pay.

    probably best to keep away from that area if you value your pack. "best defence, no be there" Bruce Lee.

 

 

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