Thread: Game animal council

So I know not much, but does this mean pigs deer etc are now not classed as pests but a game resource ?

Not yet.

But will be? am wondering how it will effect the bio security act, wild animal control act etc etc

I hope so but won't hold my breath.

Moonhunt, from the little I have read on the matter, it seems there are species or localised herds of species of interest...so I can see that in the future there will be greater controls (and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ considering how financially strapped and up the creek DOC is...for Pete's sake, it costs more to look after one genetically defunct ground parrot a year than it does a prisoner) to hunt these so called herds of interest. The Conservation Act, etc etc etc will have to be changed, surely. It all provides a deliciously lucrative avenue in time for the presiding governments...where we will no longer, phone the local DOC guy, get a permit, grap the gun and go. Enjoy it while it lasts, boys and boyesses!!!!

I like things the way they are now

As I enter my twilight years I am predisposed to not using up to many words so I will just say "sonzabitches"

I wouldn't mind paying a small fee per year to hunt if it meant there were more animals around.

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Ohh I hope not EeeBees, lets not go there

Angle I was coming from was now joe blogs shouldn't need a permit and deer fence to have a pet deer on the back of his block

With you Toby, all except DOC being able to go on private property to cull with the wild animal control act

Originally Posted by phillipgr

I wouldn't mind paying a small fee per year to hunt if it meant there were more animals around.

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The trouble is it is the thin end of the wedge, a small fee turns into a not so small fee surprisingly fast........

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

The trouble is it is the thin end of the wedge, a small fee turns into a not so small fee surprisingly fast........

Your onto it Kiwi Greg.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

The trouble is it is the thin end of the wedge, a small fee turns into a not so small fee surprisingly fast........

Exactly right, Greg.

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My concern with this council is it will most likely have the same outspoken people in the hunting and shooting circles we hear about all the time, that will seek positions on the council. Some of them, imo, are far to biased and extreme to look at things reasonably. They cant see the forest for the trees and honestly have no genuine knowlege of herd management (But think or claim they have).
Also areas that have no issues with the likes of waro or animal numbers will be addressed and fucked up the same as somewhere that does have problems, because of lazy logistical efforts (West Coast for example.....maybe?)
Parts of NZ may not be represented properly and will suffer at the hands of idiots with no clue. Bound to happen, as it does now!!

Heli Hunting and 1080 I believe are major issues with this council. These 2 issues are very hot topics.
Dare I say it, but the fact they are hot topics and are topics the council promises to address, they in turn, easily gain support from the iggnorant and stupid among us, that want or think they will eventually get an animal in every clearing.

I also fear it will turn into something like F&G and will be user pays for little or no benefit. I assume most council members will be avid hunters and privy to information that they may eventually abuse for themselves.
The concept is sound but like any other govt initiative, I fear it will become corrupt in no time.

In saying all that, there are really genuine people out there who the council and outdoorsman would really benefit from, but they would never seek a position as they go quietly about their lives.
I know a member of this forum who has worked tirelessly behind the scenes for the Wakatipu Whitetail herd. He has had no recognition and worked at it at his own cost, for a few years. People like him, I believe, are genuine candidates if this council was ever to work for us, as hunters.

+1 excellent post R93!

Originally Posted by R93

My concern with this council is it will most likely have the same outspoken people in the hunting and shooting circles we hear about all the time, that will seek positions on the council. Some of them, imo, are far to biased and extreme to look at things reasonably. They cant see the forest for the trees and honestly have no genuine knowlege of herd management (But think or claim they have).
Also areas that have no issues with the likes of waro or animal numbers will be addressed and fucked up the same as somewhere that does have problems, because of lazy logistical efforts (West Coast for example.....maybe?)
Parts of NZ may not be represented properly and will suffer at the hands of idiots with no clue. Bound to happen, as it does now!!

Heli Hunting and 1080 I believe are major issues with this council. These 2 issues are very hot topics.
Dare I say it, but the fact they are hot topics and are topics the council promises to address, they in turn, easily gain support from the iggnorant and stupid among us, that want or think they will eventually get an animal in every clearing.

I also fear it will turn into something like F&G and will be user pays for little or no benefit. I assume most council members will be avid hunters and privy to information that they may eventually abuse for themselves.
The concept is sound but like any other govt initiative, I fear it will become corrupt in no time.

In saying all that, there are really genuine people out there who the council and outdoorsman would really benefit from, but they would never seek a position as they go quietly about their lives.
I know a member of this forum who has worked tirelessly behind the scenes for the Wakatipu Whitetail herd. He has had no recognition and worked at it at his own cost, for a few years. People like him, I believe, are genuine candidates if this council was ever to work for us, as hunters.

That is a perfect summary, I think that's the best thing you've ever posted there R93