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    James Andrew Pomeroy, 31, was fined $5000 in the Nelson District Court in December for unlawful hunting on private land in the Gowan Valley. Pomeroy admitted not having permission to hunt on the property but said it was one of his companions who fired the shot at the deer, and that he was there to recover the shot animal. The judge ordered the destruction of Pomeroy's hunting knife.
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    Look at the conviction for the guy caught with a rifle but no licence. not even jail time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friwi View Post
    Look at the conviction for the guy caught with a rifle but no licence. not even jail time!
    That is seriously fucked up. Stealing, while armed. Just fucking great. Judge needs a size twelve boot up the arse

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    Maybe the knife was special?!? I bet that taught him, at least the fine would have hurt a bit.

    On the other case:
    Unlawful possession of a firearm... AND it was only confiscated??? Gee what did he learn from that one.

    Someone needs to start dishing out realistic punishments. No surprises that this is a problem.

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    I don't know what the relevance of the type of gear they are using has to do with it. Not to mention the incorrect use of terminology with regard to suppressors. Agree, poaching is no good. But this report focuses too much on demonising legitimate equipment.

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    Get in quick before the Night Vision Restriction Act 2015 prepared by NZ police and rushed through parliament under urgency.

    Only terrorists and poachers need night vision anyway. And LandSAR so join your local branch.

    Just a thought, landowners and farmers could make use of this technology to catch poachers very easily.
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    Can we have a heated discussion over 'what is mil-spec?', in regards to military-grade gear?

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    Anything of lower grade than sporting gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tararua View Post
    Get in quick before the Night Vision Restriction Act 2015 prepared by NZ police and rushed through parliament under urgency.

    Only terrorists and poachers need night vision anyway. And LandSAR so join your local branch.

    Just a thought, landowners and farmers could make use of this technology to catch poachers very easily.
    Some already do.
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    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

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    Its profitable to poach and until its not this will continue to happen. The law is an ass an those that enforce it have no balls. Harden up on the punishments and enforce them, not just a slap on the hand and then tell them how naughty that are.

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    Because a rural cop speculates that NV kit is being used doesn't make it fact. His mate, a cop from Motueka, recently bought a Pulsar Quantum HD38s. This is the piece of kit he is referring to. All convictions have (including the two cited in the article) have been spotlighting incidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tararua View Post
    Get in quick before the Night Vision Restriction Act 2015 prepared by NZ police and rushed through parliament under urgency.

    Only terrorists and poachers need night vision anyway. And LandSAR so join your local branch.

    Just a thought, landowners and farmers could make use of this technology to catch poachers very easily.
    We sell heaps of NV and thermal kit to farmers and landowners, for pest control and security. Our equipment has enabled farmers to catch poachers red handed on several occasions, and not one of the poachers caught were using NV/Thermal. Farmers and landowners benefit from a safe and effective means of reducing pests, from rats to crop raiding deer.

    To say that only terrorists and poachers need NV/Thermal is rubbish. Night hunting is a sport enjoyed by many of our clients, including several police officers. It is to hunting, what searun trout fishing is to trout fishing. Exciting and productive (sometimes). I love it, and it's really convenient to get out for a night hunt after I've been bollocksing myself at work all day.



    Lose NV/Thermal, then suppressors and semi-automatics will be next. Just take a long hard look at Australia firearm laws.

    As far as I am aware, no poaching convictions have arisen through the use of NV/Thermal. Not being able to catch poachers does not automatically mean that this technology is in use. Sure, there may be a few that will poach with this equipment, but there are strong laws in place that make this a very risky enterprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    That is seriously fucked up. Stealing, while armed. Just fucking great. Judge needs a size twelve boot up the arse
    I dunno Tommy , I guess it depends if he was using the rifle to steel , like sticking it up the victims nose and "demanding with menace " as opposed to the rifle being carried whilst committing the crime ( don't get me wrong , neither is good ) . If you were to take that to its logical extreme then speeding while in possession of a fire arm should be jail-able? I spose there are 3 situations here ,1, presenting a firearm and demanding with menace , 2, using the fire arm in the commission of an offence ( shooting / poaching animals on private land or belonging to another ) and 3, being in possession of a fire arm whilst committing a non firearm related offence ( like maybe speeding or careless driving with the gun in the boot ). I too am miserably disappointed at some of the pathetic sentences handed out by judges, and with the proposed cuts to the corrections dept budgets its only going to get worse . 1st we get mentally ill patients released into the public domain because there is no money ( well that aint true .... pollies get near as dammit $200k pensions ) to house them appropriately , and now we are looking down the barrel ( sorry , couldn't help myself ) of the same thing with crims who should by all rights be in jail wandering the streets safe in the knowledge that they probly wont be jailed for reoffending or not complying with bail/parole conditions
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    Quote Originally Posted by tararua View Post
    Can we have a heated discussion over 'what is mil-spec?', in regards to military-grade gear?
    High refresh thermal imaging (30 frames per second or more), and FOM 1800+ Gen3/3+ NV.

 

 

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