Thread: National creates a Hunting and Fishing portfolio

I do not fear the implementation of the register because my info may be leaked to crims. I genuinely fear that it is a step towards confiscation of my (now) legally held firearms. It is only because of the 'buyback' and the very odd sealing of information and findings around the 2019 massacre that has created this fear.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

very odd sealing of information and findings around the 2019 massacre that has created this fear.

What sealing of information and findings are you talking about? The final report is available for anyone to download and read?

Originally Posted by HG Man

What sealing of information and findings are you talking about? The final report is available for anyone to download and read?

Could you please provide a link to this report ? I would like to read it. My belief was that the report was sealed.

https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/

https://christchurchattack.royalcomm...nz/the-report/

Originally Posted by HG Man

https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/

https://christchurchattack.royalcomm...nz/the-report/

The issue some will have with the report is that the terms of reference were fairly narrow; and set by the politicians.

Originally Posted by Nickoli

The issue some will have with the report is that the terms of reference were fairly narrow; and set by the politicians.

Sure, but its still a great source of information, esp to correct ideas like Tarrant not being vetted or having not met his referees.

Originally Posted by HG Man

Sure, but its still a great source of information, esp to correct ideas like Tarrant not being vetted or having not met his referees.

....granted.....but the question remains as to what isn't there due to a narrow scope.

Originally Posted by HG Man

What sealing of information and findings are you talking about? The final report is available for anyone to download and read?

The full findings / analysis from the video. What is given in the commissions report is an overview that is not supported by the actual footage

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

The full findings / analysis from the video. What is given in the commissions report is an overview that is not supported by the actual footage

The video of him shooting the people at the mosques? Whats different about the report vs the actual footage?

Originally Posted by HG Man

The video of him shooting the people at the mosques? Whats different about the report vs the actual footage?

Section 21 of the commissions report states that the shooter left the mosque several times and went to vehicle for more ammunition. At the time while we were still allowed to view video this ( the shooter going to get ammunition ) is not what actually happened. Considering that the shooter was by all accounts well prepared and had done considerable planning, does it seem likely that he would have not planned to carry all the ammunition on him and would ?
I remember at the time, discussion regarding the occupied Toyota car parked adjacent to the door and this car leaving after the shooter acknowledged him. The person in the red coat walking along the inner fence.
All of these things have obviously been examined by the police, but are absent from the report

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Section 21 of the commissions report states that the shooter left the mosque several times and went to vehicle for more ammunition.

I'm not seeing it in Sections, can you point it out better? Which part is it in?

Originally Posted by HG Man

I'm not seeing it in Sections, can you point it out better? Which part is it in?

21 below is not consistent with what I remember

The individual was in no hurry to carry out his terrorist attack. We have seen no evidence to suggest that he ever intended to work to earn money and we have no doubt that the eventual timing of the terrorist attack was significantly driven by his financial circumstances. He was cautious in his preparation and generally tried to avoid attracting attention. In this he may have been assisted by his personality, which enabled him to operate without a need for regular or deep engagement with others. He generally attempted to maintain operational security with only limited lapses. His preparation was methodical, and his planning detailed and elaborate.

Many of those we have spoken to have expressed the view (or at least suspicion) that others must have played a role in the planning, preparation and execution of the terrorist attack.

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It is true that following his arrest, the individual told New Zealand Police, both when he was stopped and later that afternoon while being interviewed, that up to nine other people were actively involved in the terrorist attack. At one stage he referred to “nine more shooters”. He also said that there are “like-minded” people in Dunedin, Invercargill and Ashburton. As we have explained, he further claimed to have been in touch with the Oslo terrorist’s “organisation” which he called the “reborn Knights Templar” and which he said had given a “blessing” for the terrorist attack. He also referred to other people in other jurisdictions and also to training. Aspects of what he told New Zealand Police were reported to the public on the afternoon of 15 March 2019, in particular that there were thought to be other shooters who were active. This has contributed to community perceptions that others may have been involved.

10

When we interviewed the individual, he said that he had acted alone and that what he had said in his manifesto and to New Zealand Police to the contrary was untrue. We accept that this is so. Just as the claim of an association with the Oslo terrorist and “reborn Knights Templar” was a false trail, so too were his claims that other shooters were involved in the terrorist attack. There are a number of reasons for this conclusion that he acted alone.

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The first place to start is the interview with New Zealand Police on the evening of 15 March 2019. The narrative of events that he gave was all about himself and did not leave room for participation by others. The “nine more shooters” did not materialise. So, from a very early stage New Zealand Police were satisfied that he had acted alone.

12

He had his own money and did not require outside funding. We know what equipment he used and how he paid for it. No one else was involved. He trained for the terrorist attack by gaining proficiency with firearms, attaining a high level of fitness and bulking up on his own, albeit with the assistance of drugs. We know the broad details of his reconnaissance at Masjid an-Nur and in Dunedin and Ashburton. He also told us of limited reconnaissance of the Linwood Islamic Centre on the late afternoon of 8 January 2019. There is no evidence of anyone else being involved. Indeed, given the nature of his reconnaissance, he did not need assistance from anyone else. He was able to obtain any additional information he needed from the internet.

13

The planning documents that are discussed in chapter 6 were either emails to himself or located on the SD card of the drone or external hard drive. None of those documents indicate involvement of other people. The individual did not intend these to be seen after the terrorist attack as he had deleted them. We have set out earlier in this Part extracts of those documents that are relevant to his planning, despite the distressing nature of some of what was said. The overwhelming impression of this material in its totality is that the individual’s planning for his terrorist attack was a solo effort.

14

We have reviewed the GoPro footage that the individual recorded, along with CCTV footage from Masjid an-Nur. This material gives no indication of anyone else participating in the terrorist attack. During the terrorist attack he was heard talking to others but this was only to his online audience. It was a one-way conversation.

15

Engaging others in the planning or execution of the terrorist attack would have been inconsistent with his introverted personality. More generally his approach was influenced by that of the Oslo terrorist who was also a lone actor.

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We acknowledge a view is held in the community that, while the individual may have acted alone on 15 March 2019, he formed part of a network of people holding similar views to him and therefore was not, in that sense, a “lone actor”.

17

We have no doubt that the individual’s internet activity was considerably greater than we have been able to reconstruct. The style in which his manifesto was written indicates fluency in the language customarily used on extreme right-wing websites and associated memes and in-jokes. The individual confirmed to us that he visited 4chan and 8chan and it is likely that he contributed comments (although we have no direct evidence of this). He also visited other sites and discussion boards where there was discussion promoting extreme right-wing and ethno-nationalist views similar to his own and sometimes supporting violence. He also spent much time accessing broadly similar material on YouTube. His exposure to such content may have contributed to his actions on 15 March 2019 - indeed, it is plausible to conclude that it did. We have, however, seen no evidence to suggest anything along the lines of personalised encouragement or the like.

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For these reasons we conclude that the individual is appropriately labelled a lone actor.

21 At 1.42 pm, the individual left Masjid an-Nur to return to his car. On his way, he fired at people outside the masjid and on the Deans Avenue footpath to the north and south of the masjid. When he reached his car, he dropped the semi-automatic rifle he had been using in the driveway and retrieved the other semi-automatic rifle. He lifted up one of the incendiary devices in the rear of his vehicle but ultimately left it in the car. He then ran to a driveway to the south of the masjid, firing at those he could see. Entering the masjid again, he fired more shots at people inside before returning to his car. On the way, he fired at people outside the masjid and in the carpark, including women who had come out of the women’s prayer room and were trying to flee through a pedestrian gateway.