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last time out for a looong walk i had to limp the last 6 km back to the truck. this time on a way shorter hunt right knee sore, same place, right side of right knee,,, last time dr said nothings wrong,,,,,
im fit and healthy, building for the last 17 yrs,,, anyone have any magic remedies or things to try? cos the dr was no bloody help,,,, itll come right he said,,,
Did you get a xray?
Nag your doc until he listens, could be a bit of pesky cartilage. Both my knees had cartilage removed, didn't show up in xrays, only found it both times when they stuck the camera in there.
If you don't nag him and that cartilage comes free and severs something useful as in what happened to my MCL, then your up shit creek. Get onto it now
Both my knees are stuffed RH in a motorbike crash 30 odd years ago.
Has been operated on 3 times beyond help but Im too young for knee replacement.
The LH is now knackered because I taught myself to do everything on it to save the other things like jumping on and off tractors etc.
But anyway the other day the pain was getting pretty bad and my doc gave me some Naprosyn.
Worked a treat and now have used all knees aching again.
Will have to talk to him about prolonged use or surf the net to see what it does both good and bad.
But it did work.
I have problems with both my knees. Told doc last time i went and he just prescribed anti inflammatorys.:(
thanks guys
nah no xray, but is good idea, ill go see dr again, and ball pain his right knee , see if he can find anythin wrong with that :)
Had a problem with my right knee last xmas ,went to see my GP & told I have arthritus.
OK give me some meds ,they're bloody useless & gave no pain relief .I desperation got
a bottle of Jointex Triple action(glucosamine) from the super market .An hour later the pain
just slowly went away. I now take them every day ,still get some pain but able to work ,fish
& do some shorter hunting trips .Which is better than not being able to get off the couch.
If that fails go back n give ya GP a good slap to get his/her attention.
Ant
You might want to try something like this.
Pro-Tec X-Factor Knee Brace
One of my mates used to suffer knee pain too, he now hunts with one of these type of knee supports and he swears by it.
He buys his from the chemist.
Cheers
Pete
awesome thanks guys
ANTSMAN, I had a small knee injury the first time I went into Kaimanawas this year and I regard myself as pretty fit. Walking out back to car, my knee started to develop some pains. Thought nothing of it and soldiered on. An hour later I was limping like a little girl and could only take a few steps at a time. Pushed on to the nearest house (almost had to crawl), and a very nice lady gave me a ride the last few km's to the car. Went home, went to physio, and he couldn't pin point the problem but said it was inflamed slightly. X-ray showed nothing. Some rest and acupuncture later (I reckon this helps with the healing) it was fully healed after 3 weeks. I've since done much harder walks and put the body through some testing terrain and all has been fine. Maybe try zinc tablets to help the joints?
I use something similar for basketball, if I don't wear it I have trouble for the next few days getting up stairs. Also the McDavid range is really really good, my ankle brace has spring steel in it and gives amazing support.Quote:
Originally Posted by P38
McDavid Knee Supports
How far do you get before the boys in blue find ya? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
Left knee is shot from a mx accident years ago, Right knee gets sore on big walks from compensating for left knee, I use a evs brace and rub in some anti-flame after a walk, Works well.
Ants try the joint supplements ie gloscosimine and condroten . Get the one tablet a day ones as opposed to 3 a day .they Work for me . Also fish oil works well with with them too .
As others have said the supplements can help.
Would be worth checking with podiatrist to see if its a biomechanical.issue that can be relieved with cast orthotics (dont bother with anything less than cast for hunting) bending down, kneeling on concrete etc all the time in building is tough on knees. Some focused remedial.exercise can help too. Building muscular strngth can help.with ensuring proper motion etc. All of this said without.knowing your phyisical state. Im fit but my knees still benefit from focused remedial work.
Here you go, plenty stuff here to help a fellow out.
https://www.google.co.za/search?q=Kn...BImN0wX55YCICA
Most people with sound knees can afford to up their workload without any comeback. Once you damage a joint it's ability to perform is compromised and you need to pay more attention to the details of your preparation. I would suggest a visit to a podiatrist. I have always had a hard paper round and after sixty odd years of abuse many joints are just about f*****. Some years ago I was attending a podiatrist to have ingrowing toenails treated and he asked if he could show me something. He put a gel like substance on the bottom of my feet and asked me to step onto some paper a bit like blue hand towel. The resulting imprint was what you would expect from Daffy the Duck. My arches were completely shot. He made me bespoke inserts that I wear in my shoes and they have improved things. I always had the stamina for long hikes, never the speed, but the stamina and the inserts didn't change that but now I might be a bit stiff on Monday but before it used to be Thursday some times before I was walking right.
thanks tussock, so your recommendation is see physio? I have already worked out (partly from some of what dr said) that something has changed(most likely not being on the tools for last 12 mnths)which is causing the side ligaments to overwork,,, never happened before, just strange that its happening now, and im less than 90kg for first time in 22 yrs,,,
all good info, thanks a lot guys.
Hi, Tussock is right, you might also try a sports physio - search "IT bands" and see if that sounds like you
From Wikipedia "Iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS or ITBFS, for iliotibial band friction syndrome[1]) is a common injury to the knee, generally associated with running, cycling, hiking or weight-lifting"
IT bands run down the outside of the leg, over the outside of the knee and insert just below the knee. Friction on a little sac on the outside of the knee can cause painful inflammation. A foam roller can be used to stretch the band so it passes over the knee more easily.
Or something like that
Cheers
I had the same issue years ago after some extending hunting trips. Ended up taking lots of drugs & getting heaps of physiotherapy. After each hunt my knee would flare up and off to the physio I would go. Until I was told to go see a podiatrist, who told me straight away that I needed orthotic inserts for my shoes. Ever since I have had those, my knees have been fine. The others are right, its all connected and it just takes one thing to be out of alignment then all manner of crap can start to go bad.
I also take the joint formula daily.
I think tussock is right. Also do favour one leg for pushing up hills to the other? I did and funny enough it was that one that gave out.
thanks guys, ill be seeing podiatrist and sports physio(some all blacks physio guy) soon
If you have been building for over 17 years, I assume you are 35 years or thereabouts and are no doubt healthy.
However, keep in mind that there is a big difference in the fitness level required to spend 10 hours on a job site vs. 10 hours out walking in the hills.
While this does not specifically address your painful knees, I would suggest that you acknowledge that you are not as young as you once were and read through some of the comments from the veterans on the NZHS forum.
I have effectively been an office worker for my entire working life which is going on 30 years. I live at 154ft above sea level and enjoy walking in the hills.
At the age of 50, I can drive down to Mt Rainier (14,440ft) during the winter and park at 5,800ft - then walk up to 10,000ft for a day out back country skiing.
I enjoy beer and good Scotch whiskey on a regular basis . . . . but if planning a day trip like that, I take it easy a few days beforehand.
While I would not have the nerve to suggest YOGA . . . . I will say that I am a true believer in an early morning walk and a good stretch before and after any workout at the gym or after a day in the hills.
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these look like painful knees
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In my 30's I had shocking knee pain and couldn't go hunting without wearing open patella neoprene braces.
A cocky told me how they used to give themselves a shot of sheep drench to sort their pains - turns out NZ soils have little or no selenium and the drench has selenium added. I didn't take the drench, but put myself on a healtheries multi with added selenium and the pain disappeared after a few weeks.
I haven't suffered knee pain years now.
Antsman, your profile doesn't say where you are but if in Auckland I can really recommend the sports docs at the millenium institute set up by john mayhew and david abercrombie, the ex all blacks crew. Im guessing your injury will count for ACC so its about $35. The physio's are top shelf, looking after Olympic and ITU world ranked triathletes so they know what's what. David Cooper is really good.
Cheers
"I would suggest that you acknowledge that you are not as young as you once were and read through some of the comments from the veterans on the NZHS forum.", haha, im 43, play another competetive sport as well as hunting (not as much as i should) , and have just finished a 25 min discussion with the wife about all these knee possibilities from the wise guys... :)
the whole reason behind the post is that while i am no spring chicken, having knee issues that are mysterious is frikkin concerning, i mean if it affects my ability to perform K9 fashion the mrs will friggin sack me
:)
Who hasnt got fucked knees on here?
I have one good one. That count?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Brad Thorne stretches for 45 minutes every day, without fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
I've yet to hear him admit to yoga, but I cant imagine there's not some yoga techniques in there that he's using.
The shit that guy pulls off at age 39, it doesn't happen by magic
Tim
Thats one better than me so yip 1 point :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby
Yep ,its only the down hill bits that are the problem (mostly)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Compression bandage is help full for that.
yeh Chris, down hill is bad,,,some downhill flat track bits its easier to walk backwards, looks weird,,,
