Thread: Piece of cake evidently.

These guys.

I just wish they would do some research before they headed over.


https://www.facebook.com/1220593488/...26590232843401

Its amazing what you can see and find from the comfort of a seat in a helicopter eh!

Could be mistaken but pretty sure that guy has a few sketchy dealings in NZ that ended up in the courts a few years back.....Wonder if the heli company got paid

so long as some one is making money from these buggers in NZ but its the down side no one hears much about - access for us Kiwi hunters cut of by unscrupulous land owners pandering to these buggers - hazing thar and chamois then put out into public arena and gives us all a bad name - videos of mobs of Thar and Chamois deer taken on safari blocks and then shown to public how over run our back country is with those horrible pest animals - if they watched some of the hunting videos put out by the Duleys for example I am constantly surprised by how few animals they see in places - nothing much we can do about the safari trade except point out its not our kiwi way at all

Originally Posted by Puddleduk

Could be mistaken but pretty sure that guy has a few sketchy dealings in NZ that ended up in the courts a few years back.....Wonder if the heli company got paid

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...rom-US-charges

Originally Posted by oneipete

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...rom-US-charges

Yep judge zorab definitely got that one wrong. The bit about Kaiser running out the back door laughing really got my hackles up when I read it a few weeks ago!!

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You do need too remember that guided hunting is the norm for a lot of those guys

We are the weird ones.
We don't have tags, seasons or limits on our big game animals.
They are talking to their own people anyway

We live in a Target Rich environment and most of those guys simply wouldn't understand what we do and how we do it.

Another aspect to hunting in alot of countries is sleazing up to land owners / forest managers. It's pretty filthy but in my opinion the influencer crowd are the worst at it.Google earth research and promising swag to people who share their spots.

Not just tourists. I've had an old school mate, from generational wealth. He has a really nice big 14 point red head sitting on his wall, he's proud as punch about it. His 1st and only stag, he was driven around on a southern safari block.... I'm not too sure he's spent a hard day slogging through the bush chasing deer before in his life. But he must have spent some money on that head.

People like this don't understand what its like to go hunting, or the joys of just being out in the bush. I'd take a day of bleeding, sweating and cursing my way in the bush and sleeping in a tent listening to the animals. Over staying in a lodge with a private chef and being driven or helicoptered about to find the animal an owner has selected from their catalogue.

The only good thing about it is the overseas dollars coming into the country.

yes how many of us would put an easily taken safari head on the wall especially one of those 25+ point monstrosity's and then skite about it - not many - but that is what makes us Kiwi hunters

Paying for a 25+pointer,alot on diesel money to go hunting.Bugger that.

some of the prices one could fly in and take a few beers to-and fly some decent quantity of meat out - I have heard of $30,000 but that could have been their all up costs dont know

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

some of the prices one could fly in and take a few beers to-and fly some decent quantity of meat out - I have heard of $30,000 but that could have been their all up costs dont know

Quadruple that twenty years ago ...goes on number of inches once gets past certain size/ quality....or so I'm told.deep pockets,the client gets what he wants.... Whore hunting I think of it as. Not a hell of a lot of difference,you pay the dollars and you get the end result. The more you pay,the more you get.....or so I'm told. Never seen the need to waste my hard earned dollars in either way.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Whore hunting I think of it as. Not a hell of a lot of difference,you pay the dollars and you get the end result. The more you pay,the more you get.....or so I'm told.

A good analogy, that's the way I look at it, but I don't mind paying for it (hunting I mean!). I'm going to be paying for it one way or another, whether it's in time, diesel, helicopter fees or whatever. Just like that other aspect of life you have mentioned!

30K is s pittance to some of these guys, they sometimes have personal chefs flown in etc