Thread: PLB saves hunter

Originally Posted by John Duxbury

I'm really not sure that qualifies as advice to be honest. I think your reaching for an example there...I think I was trying to be humorous. But if it is advice, it might not be bad advice though, right? Stop falling off cliffs! What you need to find is a quote where I advise people not to carry a PLB, which is what you have implied I have said, when you say I am giving "not good advice", but as we both know, I havn't said that anywhere, actually the opposite. Carry three if you want. That is actually disingenuous. You are dissembling.

I really wanted you to address what I wrote about deer hunting not really being that dangerous, and whether articles like that skew the perception of it, when considering the amount of people that do it compared with other sports and the number of people who have injuries or die. The amount of people who responded on this thread is obviously skewed towards those posting who have an experience and wish to share it.

I am not offended, I am a remarkably shallow person and thick skinned, but people attacking me personally is not the same thing as addressing what I wrote, which is what I am complaining about. Your still doing it. Not only am I disparaging and dismissive, write silly things, and deliberately obtuse, but now I am disingenuous. Who knows what unsavoury epithets will come next if I continue to hold my own opinion.

The bit that I think people really dont like, (I am guessing, they dont like a lot of things about me) is when I said that I dont have one because I am not anxious about being in the bush. People are hell bent on insulting me out of that opinion. It is nevertheless true. I really don't know what else to tell you.

Your intent/how it reads can be argued for ever. Simply the fact you knew it would head this way tends to tell me you went in pushing buttons. That most seem to have read it the same way as myself says something. But ive said my bit and can see its going nowhere so Ill leave it be.

What you wish me to address- what kind of deer hunting? I agree that wandering out the back of the farm and shooting any deer on dark is not that dangerous or challenging. I full accept I never took my survival equipment with me for anything like that.
Spending a week by yourself 20kms up a Westland valley or mountain tops though does add a layer of risk.
Likewise currently Im having fun accessing hunting via packraft. many times the crossing is almost wadeable. Yet I carry a lifejacket. Because it's a sensible precaution.

As far as the overall danger- google provided me with these statistics.

[QUOTE]Frequency of Injuries:
On average, 1030 people are injured while hunting in New Zealand every year.
Causes of Deaths:
Firearms: 22 out of 41 deaths between 2007 and 2016 involved firearms.
Falls: 11 hunters were killed in falling incidents during the same period.
ACC Data:
ACC data shows there were 435 hunting-related injury claims made during the last roar in 2019 (March and April), up 31% on the same period in 2018.
Mountain Safety Council Data:
Between 2004 and 2016, 12,628 hunters were injured. /QUOTE]

And if we compare that too dockworkers as you used as example.

[QUOTE]Since 2012, 18 port workers have died in New Zealand, with the stevedoring industry having the second-highest fatality rate of any sector in the country, averaging 1.8 deaths per year.
/QUOTE]

That's 4 hunter deaths per year on average too 1,8 dockworkers.