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    protocol when shown hunting block or taken for hunt.

    I had thought this was in a sticky,but cant seem to find it...so will start a fresh thread.

    this can be a great way for young person or person with little experience to gain some,BUT there are unwritten rules (so I will write then down) failure to follow them tends to piss people off no end and leads to lack of trust and no more offers of same for the next newbie...which ultimately will kill off our sport.
    If you are fortunate enough to be taken away for a hunt by someone else to an area you DONT NORMALLY HUNT YOURSELF..... you leave the block alone afterwards unless specifically told its ok to go back.... the area is the teachers home turf,the last thing they want is every tom dick n harry shooting the shit out of it..... photos plastered on facebook/hunting pages or even this forum which identify spot are a huge NO NO.... there are folks who troll pages looking for just this type of heads up as to where animals are.
    PRIVATE land is even more so...you just DO NOT go back or ring up to ask if you can...it stuffs up access for the origonal fella and let me tell you this...it really fcuks guys off more than just about anything else...we work hard ,sometimes for years to gain access to farms and when someone you try to help roots it for you....it is a real kick in the balls. DO NOT DO IT.
    now public land/DOC controlled land is a little bit more of a grey area but it is still very bad form to go back and hunt area you were taken to without specifically being told its ok to do so....again it takes years to get to know a block half properly , it only takes one person to stuff it up by being greedy and shooting crap out of it,or letting on to others who do so...sometimes its completely innocently done...but he damage is done.


    you dont take GPS and pin spots when taken out on fishing trip...same reasons apply.

    an offer to pay for gas always goes a long way,if you invited back for another hunt/fish the offer to take your wagon does too. gas isnt cheap.

    there was young fella on here 2 years ago...went out for hunt in new to him area,he was sucessful and posted photos up....I sent him PM immediately and confirmed where he had been..it took me less than 2 minutes on google earth to work it out...he took one photo down and area was again not obvious.
    if putting up photos,promonent landmarks ,road signs,track signs,hut names are all dead giveaways to where you were so show respect to fella who has taken you out and dont give away location.

    Often someone will ask for where to head out for a hunt......unless you know them well and trust them to keep quiet..dont give away your number #1 location...or even the #2-3 spots...but do give them place to head with some reasonable expectation of seeing game.
    Im as guilty as next fella of giving away my good spots,so far it hasnt bitten me in bum.... to those fellas who have gone for a look and kept quiet about it..THANKYOU.

    stay safe out there folks.

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    These are the "rules" I grew up with and I live by. No exceptions was the rules my mentors gave me. Althought they took me to some cool hunting spots I never even thought of going back without them or even asking........................


    I have always found it difficult to ask landowners for access as essentially I am asking a complete stranger I do not know to do me a favor and trust I wont cause them any problems when I have nothing to offer them in return as my skill set is not "rural" related
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    PM me and I'll tell you all @Micky Duck's spots.
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    Been there, done that. I've taken people to a few of my spots for them to take a mate later on or not even ask if I wanted to come along, or not reciprocate years later with one of their own spots.

    I would rather now bump into a hunter in the bush/track and exchange numbers if they were open to the idea so that in the future we share experiences or knowledge on the area, or don't frequent the same place at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    PM me and I'll tell you all @Micky Duck's spots.
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    iv taken many people out to shoot their first deer, and it is kind of annoying getting a text the next week "went back and shot another deer in that spot we were at last week". i dont stress the point that hunting spots take a lot of time and hard work but iv always lived by the rule if you get taken to a spot you dont go back without the person who took you there. i hunt mostly public land so there is the argument that anyone can go there at anytime but i still believe you should do your own hard work to find a good spot and dont thrash the one spot you get shown cus you shot a deer there once before.
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    Don't you need webbed feet to hunt them

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    PM me and I'll tell you all @Micky Duck's spots.
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    All good pints and I thought people knew them.
    Just like leave every gate how you found it.

    Just kidding, there are stupid people in the world "They walk among us"

    My mate has been given access to a private property that looks promising for Deer. He's the mad keen Deer hunter and my experience is with pests etc.
    We both have to travel from our respective towns some way but we have shot together and I said I want to hunt with him. Some meat will be a measure of a successful hunt. He might take a trophy if he sees something special.

    He's going on ahead, I asked when does he want me to arrive and what does he need me to arrange. He's buying some beer for the manager and I'm chipping in it's all that's been asked.
    I won't be trying to work my way in with his contact because I want to go hunt the forest nearer to where the same mate lives and I'm hoping he will take me along when the stars align.
    I'm sure he will it's simply fitting time and travel.
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    I’ll add some “protocol” for hunting private blocks.

    Listen CAREFULLY when you speak to the farmer before you go in, if he says “let me know when you’re off the property and how you got on” and then you fail to do that, then said farmer will probably be a bit upset if he has been out scouting around at 9pm to make sure you haven’t come a cropper. He will be especially upset when you ignore his voicemail and text messages afterwards and then just show up a few weeks later expecting everything to be all good.

    Leave things how you f**king found them! This gets thrown around so much and it seems like there is no excuse for not knowing this, it’s common courtesy even if you didn’t know, as a decent human being you should leave things how you found them. It is surprising how many claim to know this but fail to do it

    Do as you say you are going to do and nothing more. If you have an agreement that you can shoot a pond on a farmers property and then said farmer finds you shooting the river edge 3km from the pond you have permission to shoot on, then again said farmer has every right to be upset, especially if you’re old enough to know better and you try defend your actions with “oh I THOUGHT it would be all good since you said we could shoot your pond”

    If you are an older “respected member” of a small community and you have permission to hunt on someone’s farm and you shoot a buck when you have been told not to shoot bucks, don’t then go and talk shit to all and sundry about the farmer who has very rightly told you to not come back onto the property, especially if you’re going to pretend you’re sorry for your actions etc to the farmers face

    Don’t invite your mates when you haven’t got permission for your mates to be there. In fact, don’t push your luck to begin with, if you’ve been given permission to hunt a property then don’t put the farmer in a position where they either have to say no, or say yes just because they are a nice person and find it difficult to say no. Develop trust and a good relationship first.
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    Also, just ask, don’t be afraid to get told no. We have issues with poachers yet I have zero problem allowing access if people have asked, follow protocols etc and especially if those people are willing to show their gratitude. I have one guy who hunts here a bit and he just came door knocking one day, he makes a point of going and getting a couple Crays or some oysters or a few blue cod to drop off each time he comes out, he follows protocol and doesn’t take the piss out of the priviledge. I have another guy who’s not even much of an outdoorsman but he’s been working on developing a relationship with his kids who have shown a keen interest in the outdoors and he always offers to do little bits and bobs, he came and cleaned all the chimneys of the farm houses for us the other day before going for a wander as an example
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    270 is a harmonic divisor number[1]
    270 is the fourth number that is divisible by its average integer divisor[2]
    270 is a practical number, by the second definition
    The sum of the coprime counts for the first 29 integers is 270
    270 is a sparsely totient number, the largest integer with 72 as its totient
    Given 6 elements, there are 270 square permutations[3]
    10! has 270 divisors
    270 is the smallest positive integer that has divisors ending by digits 1, 2, …, 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    I’ll add some “protocol” for hunting private blocks.

    Listen CAREFULLY when you speak to the farmer before you go in, if he says “let me know when you’re off the property and how you got on” and then you fail to do that, then said farmer will probably be a bit upset if he has been out scouting around at 9pm to make sure you haven’t come a cropper. He will be especially upset when you ignore his voicemail and text messages afterwards and then just show up a few weeks later expecting everything to be all good.

    Leave things how you f**king found them! This gets thrown around so much and it seems like there is no excuse for not knowing this, it’s common courtesy even if you didn’t know, as a decent human being you should leave things how you found them. It is surprising how many claim to know this but fail to do it

    Do as you say you are going to do and nothing more. If you have an agreement that you can shoot a pond on a farmers property and then said farmer finds you shooting the river edge 3km from the pond you have permission to shoot on, then again said farmer has every right to be upset, especially if you’re old enough to know better and you try defend your actions with “oh I THOUGHT it would be all good since you said we could shoot your pond”

    If you are an older “respected member” of a small community and you have permission to hunt on someone’s farm and you shoot a buck when you have been told not to shoot bucks, don’t then go and talk shit to all and sundry about the farmer who has very rightly told you to not come back onto the property, especially if you’re going to pretend you’re sorry for your actions etc to the farmers face

    Don’t invite your mates when you haven’t got permission for your mates to be there. In fact, don’t push your luck to begin with, if you’ve been given permission to hunt a property then don’t put the farmer in a position where they either have to say no, or say yes just because they are a nice person and find it difficult to say no. Develop trust and a good relationship first.
    Well said mate
    Especially the give us a text when you leave part!

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    I will add this.....If invited in for a cup of tea or a chat, put that first before hunting. For some farmers, the social contact if they live in a remote area is priceless. Pay attention to their problems if they discuss them and offer to help if you can. Its all part of building a relationship with the owners. Offer some of the meat/birds if successful and if they accept, take the time to process them so they dont have to. If you get sausages,salamis made, call them and offer them some back as a thank you. Treat their family and esp the kids with respect.......

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    You would think that this is all common sense really. I am also nervous about asking to go onto farms to shoot. I can understand why farmers say no.

    Most of the time though it because some other wally has mucked it up for you previously.

    Another thing. If you get a spot to shoot. Look after it, the farm and the farmer. My father had a magnificent farm with four ponds on it and about 20 kms of river. It was sold. I don't think we will ever get access to another farm like that. I think the best shooting we ever had on one of the ponds was 69 ducks in an hour opening day

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    Offer some of your time/experiance to the Farmer.

    Even if you work in a Supermarket, you can always offer to split some firewood or clean out some vehicles.

    There are a multitude of little jobs on a farm that are hard to get around to.
    "Sixty percent of the time,it works every time"

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    Helping throw silage stack tyres is a good to get into the good books….


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