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A mate of mine shot this last Feb on private land. has been a free deer for at least 6 years (was a farm animal) but the bigist thing I see is the split Brow Tines, I have never seen this before and am wondering if anyone else has come across this on the farm or in the wild???
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I have seen it before but only in pictures
Ha so this is photoshopped!Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I have shot a stag with similar shaped antlers in the central north island. It had a very long and forked trey tine. Would be very surprised if it had any farm blood in it though.
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Yeh i don't believe that fellah's face is that yellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Split brow tynes are a common trait in some farmed "trophy" bloodlines. I will stand to be corrected but NO NZ FERAL of original bloodlines have split brows. For better (or in my opinion) worse they will become a more common trophy from escapes or releases, plus of coarse, hunting estates.
Welcome aboard Gamehunter. how long have you lived in Tokoroa?Quote:
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We call em crab claws, my brother picked up a cast like that this yearQuote:
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45 years. Ex North Shore, Takapuna Grammar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
They are abominations !
Agree! Heinous looking heads!Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I would shoot him just to put the poor bugger out of his misery! The weight and stress on his neck must be enormous - no wonder some of them suffer from skull fractures
Are not most (all?) farm deer in NZ descendant from wild deer back in the live-capture days? If so, apart from a bit of selective breeding (for trophies), escapees/farmed/estate/wild/what-ever lines aren't really any different? And reason that they look so different is not genetic but the amount of feed etc that a farmed/estate deer gets?
In theory, if I went and captured a spiker out of Te ureweras with good potential and stuck it in a paddock with grass for africa and all the nutrients needed, it would sprout a head like that in 1 DEER 1's photos?
I think your signature sums that one up bro
All deer species head size, shape, beam and number of points are governed by genetics first, from sire AND dam, but will only grow out to full genetic potential IF it has enough quality feed AND he lives long enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by phillipgr
If any of these three requirements are denied stags they will not grow big heads.
Stags that have split brow tynes, huge numbers of points and bulk are bred from Warnham Park and Woburn Abbey where game management has been practiced for centuries by removing the poor antlered stags thus letting only stags with desirable antler traits to bred.
Deer farmers have spent millions importing these stags or in the last 10yrs, the semen.
Another trait that some of these many pointed stags have is straight or turned down brows.
The head below was shot about 10yrs ago on a NZ hunting estate. My idea of a beautiful top "trophy head". My guess it is from East European bloodlines.
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I agree VC but that is where breeding and good pasture have taken the industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Yep.,man made abominations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Bet they wouldn't do so well thrown back in the survival of the fittest pool.
A stag like this would have to be the best thing to me
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Is that Jamieson or the progeny of him?Quote:
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That's called a royal TobyQuote:
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So is CamillaQuote:
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