Nah. Hasn't got the length. Nice though.Quote:
Originally Posted by NRT
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Nah. Hasn't got the length. Nice though.Quote:
Originally Posted by NRT
What a cold blooded killer .... Could have left it for another few yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
But then I would have been far too mature to even get out into the trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
Anyway, they are still making them :)
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Not mine, shot within hearing of SH1.
That is a very fine Sika by anyone’s standards , well doneQuote:
Originally Posted by mawzer308
That's a stunning sika, well done to the both of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by mawzer308
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Not the biggest 8, but exciting in the tight stuff
Still a very good stag, you should be happy with that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono7
Found a 15 that I lost a few weeks ago. Very happy.
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Is that a Sika Hybrid ??Quote:
Originally Posted by jono7
Great result :thumbsup:
Be interesting to see a sideways shot of its head and also the tail end to see it there's a black stripe from the rump down to the tail.
Cross breed is the word @Moa Hunter [emoji846]Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
They're both cervus
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sika quiet over last few days in kaimanawas where I was. This young fella he hawed ~150m away and came in nicely to a single call and mew.
I wonder if there's a peak period of action to come or not?
Both Cervus but different sub species ( elaphus and nippon) therefore Hybrid. Jersey x Friesian = Crossbreed. Jersey x Brahman = HybridQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Not really sure mate, didn’t photo his arse end, but was more white than cream/yellow. I wouldn’t say he had a massive body, was able to get both back legs and steaks in my 25l backpack. I’ve never encountered one, but have heard of them coming out of the area, so definitely could be. He was he-haw calling like a sika off his pads and did a circuit around me and came into the one I had gone back to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
I’ll send you a pic of the skull cap when I’ve cleaned it up a bit more, be interested in your thoughts
Cheers
I think we must reach an age where we are forgiven for being and allowed to be, non selective, and selectively shooting them all. My parents taught me to be polite Tahr, so I will not postulate on whether or not you have reached that age yet ;):D:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Looks all sika to me. What makes you think it might be a hybrid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Attachment 165789First photo was “on the spot “. He was much darker than the first photo showed, so maybe this a better angle. Body wise I thought he was quite solid, back steaks are good.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
I chased a stag on the single call in the same spot in the roar before COVID, so maybe the same one? Who knows? Interested in any thoughts.
Cheers
Interesting. To me his facial features and brows are all sika. Camera angle definitely not the best tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Thats a better photo, nice sika well doneQuote:
Originally Posted by jono7
Yes, Scroll through this. Its marked in blue. FishnHunt - New Zealands Famous Hunting and Fishing Forum Since 1995 - Douglas scoring systemQuote:
Originally Posted by Dusty Fog
In the first photo I thought that it looked different to what I would expect in the coat and head. I dont have any personal experience with Sika but I have a very good eye for assessing animals. A hybrid animal doesnt have to be 50/50, it could be 25% or 12.5% red easily enough. The Fiordland Waps DNA at around 60 ish percent Wap for example. I thought it might have a sniff of Red ? I am just interested in what people with experience with Sika think so I can add that to my knowledgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Huntn
Hoping they get a Douglas Score and run over the Withey score to check for whether there is conformity; that is the measure of whether something is "hybrid" or not - it's got nothing to do with some bloke on a forum with no personal experience with Sika saying they look funny....in spite of having "a very good ey e for assessing animals" - I'm sure if you read your comment again, you'll realize how silly that sounds....:XD:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Not a dig mate - just an observation that there is a bit of prejudice and skepticism around Sika with any suggestion of Red influence - rather than just saying: "Good job mate - I'd be happy to hang that on my wall."
That's a ripper!Quote:
Originally Posted by jono7
I would be as pleased as punch with that.
Appreciate the honest reply. My interest is in breeding animals and their hybrids and crosses, certainly not wanting to knock someone's trophy or un-wittingly make a suggestion that is unwelcome. I dont know if many people know but the incredible multi pointing that we see in trophy park Red Deer comes from Sika blood in those reds via Woburn Abbey (Duke of Bedford) stock. This is interesting from the point that Sika have a comparatively plain head, yet the addition of Sika blood can produce extreme multi-pointingQuote:
Originally Posted by Nickoli
It's got a lot of Sika going for it..Quote:
Originally Posted by jono7
1. Appears to have smaller Sika skull length
2. Gap between coronet and brow tines
3. Brow and trey tines slope outwards not fowards
4. Heavy purling
5. Great reinforcing ridgeline above the brow tines on both antlers
6. Outer tops longer than inner tops
Awesome Stag :)
Great stag, awesome to see.
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Regardless of its bloodline, any eight is a good one, a lot of people who hunt Sika never score one so well done .
Well, we didn't zap his bro today @jono7 but a pleasant walk with a good bugger no less.
From my limited understanding of Sika we have several strains of Sika from different geographic areas in Asia which might explain different phenotypes here. A bit like the great colour variation in FallowQuote:
Originally Posted by Tui4Me
Enjoyed the walk with ya mate, and the very end of the hunt proves if you give a roar, one really should keep an eye out for something coming in instead of having a durry and a chat, especially so close to an unseen scrape, they seem to bust ya ��Quote:
Originally Posted by Preacher
Cheers
I took my eye dog X Visla for a bit of a walk this morning to one of our haunts, well blow me down she locked onto this deer about 200m from where my vehicle was parked. The rest was simple. The dogs first 8 pointer . Attachment 165922Attachment 165921
Nice ��.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamamutu
Bit quiet this morning
The results of my recent trip into the north western Ruahines,
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Some nice stags there:cool:
Woohoo on the board for 2021 spotted from 400 yards stalked into 20 and just as he stood up I sent in the 7mm08 pill to the neck and dropped him!!
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No trusty .22 through the eye...????
