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    The Lewis rha for example is a one area where more animals need controlling, was down there not long ago and would've seen 80 odd deer in the 3 days hunting, even the pilots reckon there's way too many deer around and they waro and fly in hunters for business.
    Keep those stag pics coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear View Post
    What this has done is put people off posting pictures and writing up there stories and you are asking why? You can have your view but like usual on here people like to wreck the good threads.
    No one likes to wreck threads. But why should someone be able to say things like 1080, helicopters, XYZ is going to kill them so shoot everything which is opinion not based on any solid fact. But if someone questions this it's not OK. I once again state no one condemned anyone for shooting anything. There's tonnes of young animals in this thread. Doesn't bother me as each to there own but don't recruit to a mindset and get upset if someone rebuts it. I didn't think this thread was a ragging rights thing it was a thread so we could all see what sort of animals are coming out of the bush around the country and to show cool experiences getting out and having young hunters starting which is 10x more important than the size of a stag. That why I haven't jumped on anyone with a young stag as I shot/shoot young stags when I started and completely get it. Shit some of the young stags in here mean more to the hunter than a big stag will to others anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pongo12 View Post
    I'm all for opinions and everyone is entitled to them, but it ain't gonna stop me from banging them over in my backyard playground. I always let good up and comers grow out to be shot at a later date. But when there's hundreds of the bastards smashing our pdks and crops they end up getting the 7mm treatment .
    You could swing a cat around in areas of pureora atm, there's literally deer everywhere. Shooting more animals should be encouraged in national parks. Cunning big stags get shot every year and elude hunters every year also so don't stress over it.
    I don't think anyone told you to stop. Rees maybe had a bit of a pointed question but hardly. I also understand that you do deer control as part of your job to protect pasture etc from plague numbers of deer which is highly relevant and is maybe a context it wouldn't hurt to mention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pongo12 View Post
    The Lewis rha for example is a one area where more animals need controlling, was down there not long ago and would've seen 80 odd deer in the 3 days hunting, even the pilots reckon there's way too many deer around and they waro and fly in hunters for business.
    Keep those stag pics coming!
    Agreed but even if you shoot 50% of stags in a year with the hind numbers so high they are 100% replaced by the next year anyway where as if you knocked out 50% of hind you'd also half the recruitment rate. I've even seen higher numbers in there and make a point of shooting hinds October through January until fawns drop. If you talk to pilots you will also find most have been mentioning high hind numbers and that hunters they fly in almost solely come out with stags which shows its not working to control numbers and its degrading animal quality.

    Amuri tried to organise with the NZDA a discounted rate where they could fly in 4 parties of 4 where each person could fly out 2 deer each meaning the oppurtunity to remove 32 deer with full recovery of the animals. Cost would have been 495 a person pickup drop off from windy point. I believe the NZDA was going to cover half that cost as well. There wasn't enough interest and it fell through. If we want to control numbers we either need to accept we will leave meat on the hill in which case sure kill everything. But if we want to recover meat we really need to target hinds to make use of the hunter hours.

    Anyway you really should join the off topic to save this thread and secondly because a range of opinions from both sides is important to have useful discussion.

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    Man this from is falling apart with all the bull shit arguments just shoot what you want to shoot if some one wants to shoot a heap of stags good lest it leaving more food for next year's growth some you guys that are on here need spend lest time at home moaning at what people are shooting & more time in the hills from someone looking in it looks as you guys that want game management want turn nz into a game park couse you to laze to put in the work your self to get what you call a trophy every year there's Hugh heads that get shot so get your ass of the key broad & go looking & why your there shoot some hinds instead of trying to push your agender on every one eles
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    Well said @hunt08
    I just want to see pics of "stags shot 2021"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocky View Post
    What because some peoples ego can't deal with opposing veiw points?

    The point of the off topic was to remove the discussion from this thread it wasn't so some one sided bitching could continue in the original thread.

    The people bitching about those talking about herd management are the same as the fragile SJW that can't deal with people having an opposing opinion and throw a shit fit as they take every such opinion as a personal attack. They are also the type that claim to be meat hunters but walk past 10 hind sto shoot a young stag or even worse they promote leave the breeders... Shooting a bunch of stags is stupid inefficient population control shooting a bunch of hinds makes far more sense.. No one was attacked personally for shooting anything in this thread.

    The off topic talks more about population control that it does about stags. You won't find me acting like a child about poisoning as while I dislike it as much as the next it's here to stay regardless of deer populations because I think you will find its illegal to intentionally poison deer (I'm not saying they don't potentially do it under the guise of possum control).

    It's a free country you can do what you like we are all big enough and ugly enough to make our own decisions but having your head stuck so far up your ass you can't even bare to listen to an opposing veiw point makes you exactly the same as people that think hunting is wrong or that these gun laws help gun crime and will not listen to any discussion on the matter.

    No ones making you do anything or even told you to do anything. Shit some pretty basic questions asked resulted in a lot of bitching from the likes of the "if I don't shoot them XYZ will get them" crowd.
    Well made points Stocky. I am by nature a meat hunter and having come through the 1980's period of very low deer numbers I tend to feel guilty about shooting hinds. Now that there is an abundance of animals I need to change my thinking to target hinds, which are far superior eating anyway. I struggle with shooting hinds as the bad old days are not erased from memory.
    The discussions in this thread are thought provoking and may challenge my personal views and beliefs, but hunting conditions have changed and I need to change accordingly. Even though I am a meat hunter, I leave animals with good potential because shooting them for meat is a selfish act when someone else could take that same animal as a trophy they remember for the rest of their lives.
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    Ahwell too much chit chat, here's another stag to get the thread back on track.
    took the youngest girl for a wee walk and got an easy one for her to see roaring. Headskin kept for another stag mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pongo12 View Post
    Ahwell too much chit chat, here's another stag to get the thread back on track.
    took the youngest girl for a wee walk and got an easy one for her to see roaring. Headskin kept for another stag mount.
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    I agree and admit my part to play in it.

    Awesome to see your kids out. They look hooked already pretty cool to see! All the roaring would have everyone pretty excited.

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    all this back and forth re should/shouldnt shoot is straight circumstantial,anyone lucky(hunting wise) enough to have private blocks that are riddled are gonna take a lot of animals cos they enjoy hunting and don't care about numbers getting low cos they never will,and anyone that hunts public land is always gonna want better heads floating around.shot this guy this morning with a mate I took out that doesn't really hunt, it was a super fun hunt the animal was a bonus, prob would have shot a spiker with him if one was around. Name:  IMG_3414.JPG
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    Few epic days chasing reds.Best public land deer for me.Name:  1CB2F70E-D66B-42A3-B37B-AFFC3861DC56.jpeg
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    A stag is a stag. Last couple of days in the Haurangis.

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    Cheers guys

    Wonderful to see some stag photos back on this thread

    Keep em coming !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    A stag is a stag. Last couple of days in the Haurangis.

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    you shouldn't have shot that spiker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Few epic days chasing reds.Best public land deer for me.Attachment 164976
    nice,is that a northern Tararuas animal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yesmate View Post
    you shouldn't have shot that spiker
    Piss off.
    I balanced it up by shooting that really old stag.

    How did I know it was old, you ask? "I looked up it's date".

    I rounded my naughtiness off too by shooting a hind ...

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    Tilly approves,she is licking her lips in anticipation of bits to chew on....

 

 

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