Then you die. Simple really.
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Think its clear Hunting is a no go for at least 4 weeks. NZDA has stated DONT. GAC has stated DONT. MC has stated dont. DOC has stated dont and now the Government saying stay home.
SAR stating Dont. It sucks but the Roar is cancelled .
So no hunting for me just as my wrist has healed . Lucky have a good full freezer of venison. Good thing is the winter hunting will be good. There be a few more stags floating around.
Just accept the fact people and have some sense. Theres more to life right now than shooting deer etc. And as a bonus nearly every roar someone is shot so prob so relief for some famly members you not going
In the case of extended trips I do agree but for part day trips I see no real harm.
More lives will be saved from less people driving on the roads.
But farmers and private land still can hunt. So SAR still could get a callout.
I wonder if you put them in the microwave for 20sec looks like this virus is very fragile. Just look up how long it lasts on cardboard paper.
This from Harvard Medical School.
How long can the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 survive on surfaces?
A recent study found that the COVID-19 coronavirus can survive up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. The researchers also found that this virus can hang out as droplets in the air for up to three hours before they fall. But most often they will fall more quickly.
There's a lot we still don't know, such as how different conditions, such as exposure to sunlight, heat, or cold, can affect these survival times.
As we learn more, continue to follow the CDC's recommendations for cleaning frequently touched surfaces and objects every day. These include counters, tabletops, doorknobs, bathroom fixtures, toilets, phones, keyboards, tablets, and bedside tables.
If surfaces are dirty, first clean them using a detergent and water, then disinfect them. A list of products suitable for use against COVID-19 is available here. This list has been pre-approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for use during the COVID-19 outbreak.
In addition, wash your hands for 20 seconds with soap and water after bringing in packages, or after trips to the grocery store or other places where you may have come into contact with infected surfaces.
I recieved the email from DOC this morning, I'm on a mailing list from permits I've had in the past. Other then crossing out names it was an unedited email. I'm sure others on here recieved it aswell.
Anyway all over stuff etc in regard to not going hunting now.
I hope they are telling people not to go tramping, haven’t seen that on stuff?
NZFirst has different ideas as of two hours ago.
I could have a accident at work and have a call out. The way it’s coming across to me is that if we go out this Roar we are all going to use LandSAR for a call out. They’re just trying to get hunters to get used to a new set of rules.,,,
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Id like to know how the fuck can this numpty is keeping the bottle stores open but not letting dad or mum! take the kids fishing seriously , sitting on the river bank for a few hours whip dee doo .
Word I got was a permit type system with route on it. If you’re not on the route, bend over. How they now I’m not going to the supermarket, I don’t know. Checkpoints coming up if it gets abused, and total lockdown.
Don’t my think about yourself, but think about Rushy and Macca, Tahr and co. Anyone who’s had chemo, respiratory issues etc are vulnerable. I know I wouldn’t want that on my conscience. Your father, favorite uncle......
Also got told, if the numbers don’t start dropping, it’ll keep getting extended with tighter conditions.
One person could’ve potentially infected up to 1000 on day 10.
So suck it up for 28 days, get over yourselves and think about the vulnerable around you and your family, or even this family. By the time it’s done it’s course, someone on here will have lost a loved one or know of someone
Well sorry to burst the ole stay home stay safe method, I've selling guns and ammo for the past 2 week faster than ever. Interacting with hundreds of people a day working at a gun shop.
And tomorrow hopefully I'll be off chasing Stags, if I get sick ill go home, I'll go by myself. I won't see anyone esle, I won't hear anybody esle, I will be the most furtherest thing from any virus you could be, listening to red Stags up high going off there rockers.
I won't be hurting anyone, affecting anyone. I've been guiding for 10 years this will be my first year off I can go for myself,
I'm sorry lads I don't agree with most of you here, I am all for keeping everybody safe but me walking in for a hunt and camping out for a week or 2 in a tent in bumfuck Egypt far from anybody is far more productive, But you enjoy your time at home.
I've lived with a Auto immune disease for most of my adult life, almost died Several times from it, been in and out of hospitals for years, had more cancer drugs and catabolic steroids than most people so I am going to enjoy the time I am well, if some virus wants to kill me good luck, I can't even kill me (immune system)
Trained in SAR and got all satellite coms and Trackers.
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Think your missing the point mate. It’s not about you
Well it's been made clear that we can, and should go out for exercise, so what does it matter if it's in a park, down the road, or on a beach? Seriously, whats the difference? The beach where we are is wide and almost deserted. Much less likely there to come across people than strolling down the road.
I'm sure we will likely get some knob head who wants to stop anyone doing this, but would be happy to see them ambling down the main street!
Idoits like you that that have no self control and cant think of others. Yes, it sucks,yes, in the bush you safe from the virus but thats not the f ken point. Rules and condations have been made to
to try beat this virus. People just have no idea how bad this can get and will get if you dont stay at home.
I have no doubt this lockdown wil lcarry on way more than 4 weeks and likely to get worst.
Why?
Because NZers, well, alot of them are brain dead idoits. I see groups now all together and lining up in a supermarket etc brushing against each other. Its like, WTF.
Its people like you that are going to do as you like because you think it doesnt matter and only think of yourself.
Im sure others will hunt as well, im sure others will do as one pleases and im sure because people cant follow the rules people will die.
The lockdown will go on longer than 4 weeks. If that happens maybe actually being locked in your home and not to leave your property could quite well happen apart from getting food etc.
I hope we hear no reports from you about "How this roar was"from you on here. You should be staying home, even worst you clearly shouldnt be going overnight and if thats what you going to do i have two words.
Selfish Idoit.
And i propose people that openly want to give the finger to the rules to be banned on here, lets start with this guy!!
I asked my wife the same question about liquor stores. She said that alcoholics are at risk if they dont have access to booze. She worked in addiction services for a few years. I don't think the govt thought about this aspect as they have now told them to close. Maybe a few will turn up at A&E after consuming meths. This is going to be a tough few weks on everyone.
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I think most of us know that solo hunting gives little to no chance if bumping into anyone and its killing me that i have to stay off public land for a few weeks but we have to follow the rules and do whats best. If for no other reason than it will give the anti gun nuts more ammunition to pile on the hate if its in the press.
Just do the right thing and stay at home going insane or take up another hobby. Im going to break out the paintbrushhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...105ee7d9c0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cd19a88b40.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3899cb22fc.jpg
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Like everyone else here, I'm pretty pissed off that my roar trips are off and I've never been a fan of being told what to do. Like most I consider myself capable and self-reliant in the hills and see little if any chance of bumping into someone else or requiring SAR assistance. The temptation to sneak away is strong BUT as part of the bigger picture I am going to adhere to the rules and not go anywhere. We could all take the stance of Goosebayhunter and designate ourselves to be the exception to the rule, but then nothing changes and the lockdown is pointless. Imagine if all other parts of the community took that stance as well.
It's a shit and I'm grumpy about it, but I'm staying home.
The thing is that help WILL be available. SAR will come out and will all be mixing to rescue someone who didn’t think the rules should apply to them. That puts each of their families at risk because someone couldn’t put their hobby to one side for a few weeks. As much as we all say “I won’t need SAR, I won’t get hurt” we don’t know that. It just takes one bit of bad luck. Anyone that thinks it could never happen to them is deluding themselves. And to say “Don’t come get me” isn’t realistic either.
Don’t be selfish. Stay at home
Bad luck; car crash; heart attack (yes, fit mountain walkers get them too); whatever. Stay at home and don't risk putting more pressure on the emergency services.
I think common sense is somewhat lacking in this thread...
If the conversation is around spreading a highly contagious sickness I think everyone would/should agree leaving your house and going for a walk or jog around the block in a built up area (as that is where most people in NZ live) is far more likely to spread the illness person to person.
I can’t see how it’s up for discussion as it’s a basic isolation principle??
Option 1. Walk in a highly populated area.
Option 2. Walk where there is no one.
I’ll go with option 2 and further to that firearms and hunting are not relevant to the conversation.
Stay safe fellas.
You guys are worried about going for a hunt.
I am a recovering cancer patient with a partially renovated house that needs at the least worked on to get to a weather tight state.
It looks like my builders will be able to carry on working to do this.
Hopefully able to get double glazed windows fitted it will then be a bit warmer.
At the moment very breezy with the inside temp racing to match the outside.
Your "worries" and "concerns" are not terribly great.
Stay home.
Great post Phil_H.
Have just been notified that the forestry is closed to all access. Also understand that DOC has cancelled all hunting permits. I would say if you are found on DOC land hunting in the current political climate you can say good by to your firearm license and any chance of getting it back ( Not fit and proper). Remember there is a Roar coming in about 12 months and there should be more deer around.
Had something pop up on facebook it said:
Our grandparents were called up to fight 2 world wars. We have been called up to wash our hands and sit on the couch, DON`t FUCK THIS UP.
In my mind that pretty much says it.
Just been talking to a mate that has popular DOC access through his farm ,cops been up and told him any cars come past after 12 ring the police!! FAL gone!! Please just stay at home!!
but in this instance, they do say so, and as much as I hate this bunch of clowns in charge at the moment. we must do so. They arn't saying this due to megalomania, they are saying this to save lives at the expense of the economy. if you had to trust them just once, this is the time to do it.
I hear you @Phil_H and I plan to stay home.....Although the wife would rather I went hunting for a couple of weeks! I work in an essential industry, and there are about 700+ people at work. And there is NO WAY to avoid contact with them. So the wife's view, and the reason that she is worried is that I'm going to work each day mixing with hundreds of people and potentially bringing back the virus into our household. Where if I was in the bush by myself there would be no risk of contracting it...... How do you debate that one???? As there is some logic in it.
+1 @Phil_H great post. I’m sure every one of us would love to continue our roar plans and head for the hills, the stags will still be there once this is over, stay at home so we can all get back out there sooner
Hey Goosebay hunter what setup are you using on your solo mission, looks like big long range stuff to me.