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say you wanna hike into a spot an low an behold, its a "roar ballot block"..... but you're not hunting- what do you guys think about this , or the "rules" around this?
say you werent a hunter an didnt know about it but walked into a hut that was in the ballot system ---- problem?
well we put up with dickheads still fishing after season has closed on lake with duckshooters trying to enjoy opening weekend.
we have walkers around edge of same lake....
we dont get a closed off area all to ourselves.....
we also have blocks here in south canterbury that are shut for hunting all summer so trampers can be undisturbed.....and they allowed in blocks over winter which doesnt seem to cause issues....
huts are either booked in advance or first in first served
so what eggzachary is your point????
I would say (applying common sense) if you ain't carrying a rifle or a bow then there is no problem, fill your boot.
Roar Ballot blocks I would assume mean you have to successfully win the ballot for hunting access (ie a valid hunting permit)
Of course I may be totally wrong too!
point is , im walking into balloted areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
want to see if theres actual rules on hiking in whilst some yahoos are looking for non existant deer. (haast pass region)
What was your point, again?
if you are worried about it contact the people who run the ballot/blocks and are you intending to carry a firearm??? that would be a gamechanger.
im in agreeance of this also- havnt found anything too specific on the idea though , possibly worth shooting DoC an email i supposeQuote:
Originally Posted by mikee
no wonder your post count is high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
i hope that wasnt a serious question at the end.
no different to what Mikee posted at same time.
and if you think haast area has no deer....... yeah nah cant even be bothered typing anymore.
the ballot blocks can still have other public land users on them at any time (trampers, anglers etc) but only the permitted party can hunt that area during that ballot period. huts are also for everyone to use but the first in first served usually means hunting parties get setup before trampers etc come along anyway. if you wanted to go for a look nothing is stopping you but you know there will be hunters around so do it safely.
Well worded.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
Balloted roar blocks probably have a lower density than other "open hunting" blocks which can be full of dickheads.
Hiking during the roar?
Make sure you wear blue!
Theres 11 other months of the year to go tramping(none armed) thru a roar block area.Why bother go tramping thru a roar block in April.Bit stupid i recken.
Bit of a silly thing to say.. hunters do their ting year round, trampers and various other rec users do their thing year round, why should the roar be any different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
To Rees - every public land hunting ballot tends to have a few differences, but none grant you sole use of the land that I’m aware of, and nor should they. So if you want to leave the rifle at home and go tramping, then go for it.
Some ballots work by granting your party the only valid hunting permits for that area/period, some like the tahr ballot grant exclusive heli landing rights only, and others will still be able to walk in and hunt those areas at anytime. (Or helihunting, but that’s a different matter..)
If you want to know the specific rules about a certain ballot then have a read of the ballot terms on the DOC site if you can find them, or just flick an email through to them.
No its not a silly thing to say.Its a safer way to approach the situation for a none hunting person.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrikerNZ
What wap block you got again? Might head in for a tramp.
Sorry but you are clearly a hunter, actively tramping in a ballot block when you probably no it will annoy the hunting party a bit seems like a weird idea.
Or maybe an Australian idea? ��
It’s our country so fill your boots, a tramper wandering through a block will mean bugger all to the local deer population, they have seen smelt people all year round, a tramper walking through your river flat or high ridge will hardly effect the stag or hinds in the next clearing.
Sure you’ve got a ballot block but by the third period you know your block has being walked all over..but that “one” stag is just that ..he’s sneaky , quiet , cunning then he’s gets ….maybe just hungry or starving.. and then it’s your on feed tree , slip , face ,that he’s chewing
@Rees What block?
Plenty of people on here have haast roar blocks.
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No regulation prevent you to… Just use a bit of common sens I guess. Depending the configuration of the block, if there is a risk your activity will ruin the party for these lads then it’s a shit move especially from a fellow hunter. Place yourself in the opposite situation, you waited for the trip of the year, saved all these brownies point, invested in flash new gear, arranged travel, accomodation then bump into a tramper/hunter that scented all the playground….
Personally if I’m off for a hike with family and bump into hunters at the car park, I ask them what’s their plan and change our itinerary to make sure we won’t bother them.
Not everyone cares about hunting and may just want to go tramping and they can do that on doc land during the roar, sure its annoying for the hunters but its part of the deal on public land, you on the other hand clearly know its its not ideal for the hunters to have someone hiking around a block they're in-Dont be a dork mate, if you don't have to be"hiking" around that time don't go.
No, it was a silly thing to say...
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Originally Posted by Trout
Lake Edith burn, elkapo river
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Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
Thanks for all level headed ,realistic replies.
Will continue on with Plans.
We want to visit some Huts and check out some Valleys..
Tramp on
Had many roars in the Hollyford ,meet plenty of trampers not an issue at all plenty of country for everyone [emoji106]
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Yeah fair. Many kiwis hunt along the access tracks ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tibo
But fair. I hear you a little bit but the Rules are what they are.. typical roar block the hunters will have left with first 3 days no sightings ������
Good luck bud if you are on a lake front block you might see less deer than you will tramping through someone’s Haast block.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees
Utter rubbish !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees
Plenty of us have spent way longer in a roar block without seeing a deer and had a great time !!! [emoji2937]
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Ahhh rubbish.
Heaps of Massive Elk on the lake fronts , might even see a Moose
I've heard most get hyped up an leave after 3 days cos there's no sightings, noise or prints.......
Thanks man , wish you knew more than you put out 🤣🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
I'm in a Moose block an will shoot anything resembling a Ruahine head 🤣🤣🤣
Rees, you are clearly just trying to wind people up for no reason at this point, why didn't you just email DOC straight up? Rather than asking a hunting forum about whether you are allowed to knowingly be an annoyance to other hunters at the prime hunting time that people wait all year for...
I have heard that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicy
Unfortunately Rees is an Australian with an Aussie sense of humour. A question for you Rees, what do you call a polite Australian?
it looks some of you have got the wrong end of the stick, from what i read he was wondering if he could hike into ballot block areas during the ballot periods and the answer is yes he can, its public land he can do whatever he likes except hunt it. the question of should he do it its up to him to decide i know some people get precious about their once a year outing roar hunts so he can expect some flak if he comes across those hunters but he has as much right to be there as they do its just the reality of it.
a good c--t ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyJason
that is catt with double T.
Nah mate,lol. A New Zealander.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees
Hahahahahaha. Fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyJason
Yep what he said...Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
You can walk through a block to access your block. You just can hunt that block as your roar permit is only for the block you have drawn for the time period.
Here is the wording from the bottom of the permit
"Note: Other persons (trampers, fishermen, DOC rangers, guided groups and volunteers etc) may be in the hunting area."
Public land is public land and open to everyone, and that is how it should be and should remain.
But are people nowadays so entitled and selfish that they can't help themselves and wander into a roar block to ruin somebody elses time in there?
As if there was not enough outdoors to enjoy for everyone.
Just go to one of the spots more active with hikers for that period of time, or go end explore that particular area outside the roar.