Anyone seen this....
Tuhoe banishes hunters in Urewera | Stuff.co.nz
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Anyone seen this....
Tuhoe banishes hunters in Urewera | Stuff.co.nz
It didnt take them long to stop hunting. So much for no changes to access.
FFS
Scribe has started a thread about this as well.
As a English kiwi I don't recognise the authority Maori think they have and will continue to hunt until advised my the crown
That be fair right? As Maori say they don't recognise the crown
I was of the understanding that it was a joint venture of Crown and TuhoeQuote:
Originally Posted by Full noise
"shit heads" in their anyway ! (....... & in more ways than one):pissed off:
This really sucks. And with all the reassurance of how this will not affect access for New Zealanders. What a load of shit.
Why would you void current permits through a change over unless your aim was to keep hunters out.
Would be surprised if the new permits are free. I for one will not pay a cent to hunt the Urewera.
Wait for it, wait for it. You will have to pay. It will be turned into a money making exercise by Tuhoe because its !!!theirs!!!, so it stands to reason that anything on their land is theirs including the pigs and deer. Get ya wallets out. I wonder how they will police a permit system? DOC couldn't manage it. Maybe they will have heavys roaming the bush looking for hunters that don't have permits. That could be interesting.
Tuhoe don't think they have control they know it and it is NZ law that Tuhoe control access to Te Urewera so just get used to it and if you want a good out come work with them on it.
Those that will consider poaching the area should read what has happened to several Hunters in the South Island
1/ Banned for two years from all the decent hunting areas (not just the property the poached)
2/ Confiscate firearms and vehicles
3/ Fines and court costs
as an English kiwi, wake up and learn.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Full noise
tuhoe never signed up for the hire purchase agreement offered by your crown.
Give it time guys, there seems to be some who are getting a bit too excited.
Let the Shared Goveranance model and supporting admin required sort itself out.
Same thing in Auckland regarding the Maunga settlement for the volcanoes. Taking ages to get sorted, so as a result no one has budgets and staff sorted to replace signs, approval for events (even school girls filming) has to go to full Maunga Board.
They will sort it eventuallu, just takes time.
When they finally have systems in place to administer permits and hunters are in fact banned from Te Urewera, then complain.
Or if hunting is allowed and we do have to pay, we may have to just suck it up.
Yip people need to read the facts and stop reacting on speculation and looking like dicks
All well and good mate. However when we have local iwi poaching day in night out and showing nil respect for quarry, the future of ours and other hunters, my respect for them is fucken zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobGibson
On this topic I'm pretty sure there will always be several colonial dicks hanging around, as a few have demonstrated already :)Quote:
Originally Posted by distant stalker
is it poaching when you have every right to be there ?
I can only see a limited time to sort out some admin change and then it will be sorted.
The only things that annoy me about this process is the voiding of DoC permits without any reasonable and respectful notice period and no apparent intention from Tuhoe spokespeople to honour the assurances regarding continued unchanged access for all NZers. The governance board have had many months to consult and establish a plan to execute and communicate with all stakeholders... It would appear from the conflicting representations made by two different spokespeople that internal agreement has not been reached, in which case all existing systems and access protocol should remain unchanged until the board has not only reached consensus, but also devised and created access systems to reflect changes, finalised by a reasonable notification period. An unsurprising turn of events for most of us thus far I would guess :-/
Its not just iwi who poach.
Do we know for certain that DOC consulted with Tuhoe prior to their ceasing to issue permits.
If DOC just made an arbitrary decision to cease issuing permits from a certain date with out consolation I would react in exactly the same way.
The world will not end if there are no permits issued for a few months. In fact the hunting will be the better for it as the game will have settled down a bit.
Hey bro you getting to close to my "gorse" crop.. Fuck em
I guess you could call my dick colonial ebf. It certainly has conquered many a country (spelling?). Ha ha ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Exactly my crown trying to do the best for all kiwis not just one race
Think you need to drop the "o" Rushy :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Was going to type in a witty reply, but then realized I'd just be incriminating myself :thumbsup: