Thread: Warning Distressing and Disturbing Photographs- 1080 Poison

Originally Posted by johnd

I think the hype on 1080 is misguided.
The VERY first thing you have to realise is that it IS A POISON. That means it wont kill things politely and let them rest on a feathered pillow in a quiet room to slowly and eventually shuffle from this mortal coil. Its a POISON they all kill things badly.
Even when we were knocking off naughty prisoners for murder they used a POISON.
Its not just 1080 that should be getting the flak here. ALL poisons will kill thats what they do.
When people say we need a better poison I just roll my eyes.
What we do need is less predators of our wildlife, and a way to achieve that on a large scale. To hopefully prevent the decline of some of our endangered species.
Knocking 1080 is an easy cop out, yes we know its bad ... read the above, its a fucken poison!!
The most cost effective method to kill target species is to apply it well, and accurately. That is what needs to be focused on here. With all the anti 1080 protest thats gone on for the last umpteen years here in NZ, what has been achieved?

End of rant.

John allow me to marginally modify your penultimate sentence to pose a slightly different question. "With all the 1080 that's gone on (our forests) for the last umpteen years here in NZ, what has been achieved"?

I admit that I am one of the anti 1080 members of our society (not a protester mind) and my opposition to its application is perhaps different to many. Yes I abhor the hideous deaths it causes but as you say, that is the nature of poisons the world over. My opposition hinges on the huge sums of money that this country has spent repeating for several decades the application of 1080 as a solution to a problem when it demonstrably has not produced the intended result. We should simply be smarter than that. It is dumb of us in the extreme to keep doing the same thing in the vain and glorious hope that it will produce a different result.