Thread: 577 Snider dies, brass, molds etc

So I will try again with 577 but this time start with gear for the Snider
And can always open up the chamber to something bigger later on

So any Snider related gear for sale appreciated and a little more likely than NE gear

Cheers

If you can't find any to buy...I have some you can borrow
B

Just make a snider action . . . As long and you have a suitable lock!

24ga brass shotgun shells can be fireformed
Mag tech mate them and I think Gunworks sell or did sell them

Originally Posted by Tentman

Just make a snider action . . . As long and you have a suitable lock!

@Tentman I'm not a fan of the snider action .
I guess I would like one if I had one
But wanting to build a hunting 577
And being made from a brand new barrel it will be easy to clean

Originally Posted by Tentman

Just make a snider action . . . As long and you have a suitable lock!

If I had a suitable lock I would be making a 577 muzzleloader with a left hand back action lock
But the places that have them have drifted far far away in the last two years !
So far away that freight takes a lifetime ...if it gets here at all

I found a bullet mold I forgot I had, it's a 581-482 so I'm guessing no use for the 577?

Originally Posted by tommygun

I found a bullet mold I forgot I had, it's a 581-482 so I'm guessing no use for the 577?

@tommygun that could be really useful

Molds ( as you might know ) are not really true to label
I have a mold marked 58 - 500 that throws a .577 520 grain pure lead mini bullet
I expected when I first cast with it that it was for the American .58 cal Springfield rifles.
But its clearly for Enfields etc

So your 581 - 482 might just cast something that is usable in the lighter weight
And then theres shrinkage and lead alloy variability etc

I've been setting up my Snider over the last 6 months, its been a learning curve.
First thing is even back in the day they were shooting an undersize bullet (.577) as they were designed obviously for muzzleloaders.
This never shot particularly well in a Snider breech.
I bought in an xring mould that throws a .600 flat based bullet.
Remember the land to land on these can be anything up to .582 and then you have 15 thou deep (depending on the model) rifling.
Cast in pure lead I am getting promising results at 50 yards under 2 inches, which is about the same as my original .577 Enfield.
This is shooting 3F with cornmeal filler.
If you are setting up a rolling block(which would be my pick)or sum such it should be a tack driver.
I also use the 24 gauge magtec brass, gunworks have it. It needs trimming, annealing and sizing but in theory can be loaded by hand after that without resizing.
I don't have dies but the guy in Christchurch sized mine the first time.

Originally Posted by 2ndSouthCanterbury

I've been setting up my Snider over the last 6 months, its been a learning curve.
First thing is even back in the day they were shooting an undersize bullet (.577) as they were designed obviously for muzzleloaders.
This never shot particularly well in a Snider breech.
I bought in an xring mould that throws a .600 flat based bullet.
Remember the land to land on these can be anything up to .582 and then you have 15 thou deep (depending on the model) rifling.
Cast in pure lead I am getting promising results at 50 yards under 2 inches, which is about the same as my original .577 Enfield.
This is shooting 3F with cornmeal filler.
If you are setting up a rolling block(which would be my pick)or sum such it should be a tack driver.
I also use the 24 gauge magtec brass, gunworks have it. It needs trimming, annealing and sizing but in theory can be loaded by hand after that without resizing.
I don't have dies but the guy in Christchurch sized mine the first time.

This is all good info thanks

I'm pulling together the info and parts needed to kick this project off

The donor action is sorted and pick up this week
The brass from Gunworks this week also as I have rings there to pick up for another project
Vulcan should have the drill, reamers and button within the week
So it's starting to come together

Bring new barrels my expectation is reasonable accuracy
The old Sniders varied a lot in bore and chamber
I know it drove Robbie T nuts
He was determined to get a snider going as a target rifle
Got a special barrel from Germany
He never did get it to do what he had hoped

Now I'm not suggesting I can do a better job than he did
But I'm taking the snider action out of the equation and hope that I can crack it

Original Snider projectiles had clay in them, half the problem in trying to get them accurate

I just use 28ga shotgun hulls cut to 2 inch and a .600 round ball. Surprisingly accurate.

Don't get the cartridge .577 2in mixed up with the rifle "Snider" to dictate what it can or can't do !

I see people stating to use 28ga shotgun (plastic ?) cases & why would you do that when the .577 is 24ga/bore & I have had .577 double rifles marked as such 24 Bore ?

I use 24ga cases, plastic, with Black Powder & they work great, CBC/Magtec can be a problem, not so bad with Black Powder & used in .577, the Large Pistol primers work on the BP, but not so good if trying Nitro loads & huge balloon head & so so on the heat treating.

The CBC are a pain when making .577/450 & trying to use Nitro & could be dangerous, again this can be a awesome cartridge in a strong modern rile with a .458 bore, I'm lucky to have a Jones Underlever & Cape Rifle in .577/450 both with .458 bores so easy to get them to shoot but brass is a factor .

I also have been going to build a modern .577 2in / Snider on a modern action but barrel availability, not to mention price have been a factor (and talent to put it together lol) will be great to see this come together !


Actually if any one has some .600 450gr-500gr slugs they might sell a sample of I have a .577 Boxer - Webley project I would like to try them in ?

Yeah I don't know why people say 28 gauge, its a 24 gauge that's correct.
You don't have issues with BP putting holes in the plastic cases?
I have an xring services .600 mould I can send you a few to try if you want.
Flat base, Ill check the weight but something like 450-500 I'm picking.
Only thing is I've got to cast some up, and have a couple projects ahead of that but If you don't mind waiting a few weeks.
Cheers,
2nd.

@2ndSouthCanterbury no I havn't had BP putting holes in the cases with the Homebrew BP I'm using, this is after at least two firings .








It would be great to try some of your slugs when you get a chance please ?