Thread: Black powder or substitute + fuse

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Have a can of wano powder canister number 2 I think. From a previous earlier post I think it's black powder. I don't need so of suits anybody that can use it.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

The Recipe: Pretty simple really and there are some good vids on youtube for homemade black powder.

1, Stale uren, yes!! piss in a bottle and leave it in the shed for a few weeks.
2, Charcole : made from Crack willow from the river banks. Use branches 4-6 inch thick so its still fairly young. Cut green then strip the bark and leave to dry, I will cut lengths of willow from the same tree. Cut to kindling thickness and cook in a old coffee tin or similar in the fireplace with the lid on and a nail hole in the top to let the gas out. You can light the gas and when it stops burning the charcole is done. Pulverise to a fine dust.
3 Salt peter / Potassium Nitrate : From a farm fertiliser distrubuter about $56 25kg
4, Sulpher : same supplier $12 2kg

750gm Potassium Nitrate
150gm Charcole
100gm Sulpher

Salt peter in a pot and cover with Stale uren, Bring to boil and salt peter will disolve. Stir in slowly the other 2 ingrediants powdered and mixed together, stir for about 10 minutes. It wants to be a good poridge mix.
Take it off the heat and let it cool a while.It will solidify. Once its cool enough to handle by hand force it through a kitchen cive with course wire and leave it in a thin layer to dry in the sun.
Until it is dry it probably won`t burn well or at all but once its dry its good to go. Put it in a sealed container away from the kids.
As a precaution do not use steel utensils in the making of this powder.
As this powder is not compressed like the bought stuff you will use about twice as much as a thrown unit. IE: if you use 100gr thrown of 2f in a 50cal, you will probably throw 150 - 200gr by volume not weight of homemade powder.
Bought powder is compressed to about 40 ton and made into pucks that are then broken to get the F grain size. This homemade powder is just corned so is lighter and larger by volume to weight.
With my old eyes on a good day I can shoot 3-4 inch groups at 100mts with a open sighted flintlock and this powder. If you are having a slight delay between the flashpan and the main charge, drop about 3 grains of FFFF down the barrel first. For caplocks just the homebrew and a capgun cap will do the job.
Of coarse the above was just theoretic and above all be safe and use common sense, for christ sake dont smoke while your doing this.
There are no legal issues in making your own black powder in small amounts as long as it is only being used for a lawful purpose such as being used in a muzzleloader by a licenced firearm owner.

Now that I recognise almost word for word Still making it and have perfected it even more with the add of a Ball Mill to grind two of the ingredients together but never the three at the same time. Ran it over a Chrony a few weeks back and getting 1861fps from about 85gr with a 50cal pach and ball, thats about equal to Goex. I still use 4F in the flash pan because I have it but just homemade in all my black powder guns otherwise.
Fuse is easy: take a length of cotton string, put it into the BP mix as its boiling. Take it out and hang it to dry.... Fuse!

Would a company that does professional pyrotechnic displays,perhaps have black powder or substitutes?.

Overseas companies often make their own. Not sure about here but its easy enough to make, just takes a bit of forethought and preparation.

@Tasbay...a thread as good and constructive as the original is...doesnt deserve to die...so I keep reviving it .THANKYOU
I rather miss sf90 and the hilarity he brought into any discussion.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Would a company that does professional pyrotechnic displays,perhaps have black powder or substitutes?.

Yes, refer Post #14.
The company is Van Tiel Pyrotechnics. Couldn't open his current website though - came up with a privacy error.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

@Tasbay...a thread as good and constructive as the original is...doesnt deserve to die...so I keep reviving it .THANKYOU
I rather miss sf90 and the hilarity he brought into any discussion.

Yes shame after us wanting a Black Powder section it was short lived. I like some of the others have had trouble logging into that site so gave up. I was surprised how well read that thread became and with the shortages in powder and related bits it`s good to have alternatives.

Pretty sure in the distant past I heard of a similar company in ChristChurch,where some back powder shooters were sourcing their powder because at the time there was none available elsewhere....just can't recall who it was though.