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    Picatinny Rail or weaver Rail for Baikal

    This must be rail wanted # 5 :-(
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    Thanks for your Ruger rail - perfect
    Now want to try the Pulsar on the Baikal as might be more suited weight wise

    So has anyone got or know what will work on the very restricted length Dovetail of a Baikal

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    I bought one off TradeMe, for mine.
    He nui to ngaromanga, he iti to putanga.

    You depart with mighty boasts, but you come back having done little.
    Sounds like a typical hunting trip !

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    mate....dont stuff around buy one of the airgun mounts off trademe...somewhere around $40 the rings part are joined together so alignment isnt/cant be an issue...the 4 allen keys ensure it stays tight and the grub screw can keep it located.


    https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...14002ecb89-007


    like this one.
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    No guys - they are no good for me
    I need a flat bare rail - it must protrude foward of the dovetail
    I will mount a Pulsar Night Vision scope (Thermal same system

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    ok so maybe a riser??? to get out the front end of the dovetail carefully file it out with triangle file...that will allow riser to grip the section thats there and "hang free" where its not.

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    can't you get it drilled and tapped then play around with cheap ali express rails?

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    What about one of these, a 22 riser with pic rail on top. The dovetail grooves on the baikal dont go right through so the unit sits back over the standing breech, you will need to file it down as its proud of the barrel.
    Timattalon sorted this for me a few years ago when i was looking to mount a red dot. Cost about $20 i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian 22. View Post
    can't you get it drilled and tapped then play around with cheap ali express rails?
    Yes - but if you seen me with a hand drill - you prob think diff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Henry View Post
    What about one of these, a 22 riser with pic rail on top. The dovetail grooves on the baikal dont go right through so the unit sits back over the standing breech, you will need to file it down as its proud of the barrel.
    Timattalon sorted this for me a few years ago when i was looking to mount a red dot. Cost about $20 i think.
    Looks like it could just about have enough length

    Will measure up tomorrow - but for mem I think I need min 100mm of rail (or was it 80 ????

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    I think this is a better picture of what was described above. I dont have any but they are available from Ali as well as other places.

    One thing to bear in mind, if any of the rail protrudes back over the rear edge of the barrel section, you will need to file the ramp on the stock part. It is deliberately set slightly higher than the barrel so that you cannot see the dovetail when using the open sights. If this is not filed down, anything protruding back like the bottom of the mount will hi it and stop the action from closing completely. This will usually stop it firing, but occasionally it can close enough to just fire.....depending on how hard it is forced.

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    [QUOTE=timattalon;850720]Attachment 113476

    I think this is a better picture of what was described above. I dont have any but they are available from Ali as well as other places.

    One thing to bear in mind, if any of the rail protrudes back over the rear edge of the barrel section, you will need to file the ramp on the stock part. It is deliberately set slightly higher than the barrel so that you cannot see the dovetail when using the open sights. If this is not filed down, anything protruding back like the bottom of the mount will hi it and stop the action from closing completely. This will usually stop it firing, but occasionally it can close enough to just fire.....depending on how hard it is forced.
    Thanks for that
    That looks what I after - but
    Can it not be faced the other way ??
    Do you have or remember a "key" search word for Ali express as I know its a vast sea of gear there

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    If you look at my photo it is on the other way round, the base is longer than the dovetail so it still sits over the standing breech. A couple of strokes with a flat file gets the lump off.
    Take tins photo to a gunshop or airrifle place they should have one the baikal dovetail is the std 22 dimension.
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    [QUOTE=Sarvo;850743
    Do you have or remember a "key" search word for Ali express as I know its a vast sea of gear there[/QUOTE]

    just search "dovetail to weaver" and you will find what you need
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    Try these links for starters....

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dove...AbTest=ae803_4

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pica...AbTest=ae803_4

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tact...AbTest=ae803_4

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Uniq...AbTest=ae803_4

    That might set you off in the right direction....Can be mounted either way extending forward or rearward. Some have a recoil stopper in the top that screws down into the groove on the top of the rifle dovetail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Henry View Post
    If you look at my photo it is on the other way round, the base is longer than the dovetail so it still sits over the standing breech. A couple of strokes with a flat file gets the lump off.
    Take tins photo to a gunshop or airrifle place they should have one the baikal dovetail is the std 22 dimension.
    Yes - I see that now @Marty Henry
    But looking at the Ali adverts that @timattalon kindly provided - it looks like the under sice of rail may be just clear as it looks raised above the dovetail fixing part

    Some also said you can file the front of the Baikal dovetail to allow it to slide further forward
    I am reluctant to do ANY filing as knowing me it prob wont be a long term setup :-)
    My Baikal is a goodin and reluctant to deface it in anyway (plus I not to good at doing careful jobs like this

    What do you guys put on - if you bare bluing in any way (like filing this)
    I remember years ago I had a tube of bluing but it was useless really

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    I think can see it would still need a smidgen filed off at standing breech
    Angle grinder or hand file
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