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I have an itch that needs to be scratched (and not in a "just spent a weekend in Hamilton and should now see a GP kind of way....) - I'm weighing up getting a new rifle and have been looking into the 280AI. I'm trying to be objective, so this isn't a "which calibre is best" battle, although I will kick a few 270 owners and rule out this calibre as it is for cavemen. Intended use is tops hunting in the Ruahines. Thoughts gentlemen? (Cavemen need not apply :XD:)
You have got Nosler Custom brass now, not cheap but at least you won't need to fireform. Check the price of dies though. It is really close to the 7mm mag in performance. Could be cheaper to get a 7mm mag, brass and dies being cheaper. But if the 280AI is the itch that needs scratching then go for it.
Saum
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I had one. They are a calibre that can do it all. From 120 & 140 TTSX to 162 amax. I shot boars at 10m to deer at 350m. Easy. Never tested it out to put it plainly.
They need a long barrel that's why mine is gone. They don't but if they don't then they're basically a caveman's walking stick. [emoji57]
...if I had to put my caveman hat on I'd have to agree with Brads. Saum.
I've had 7RMag, Saum, 708, 250, amongst others and I'm simply still sitting on my .308W. [emoji106]they're the best.
I will always have a 308 in the safe.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
That's the boy[emoji4]Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickoli
280 is cool, I ran into difficulties with the powders I was running; some of the Reloader powders are very temp sensitive and on day like today I clocked a 140AB at 3280fps. That was not nice out of the light mountain rifle. I pulled them all and started again.
I'd do it mate. There is nothing to loose and they hold their value.
Barrel length no problem to you?
Barrel length no issue - I'm not intending to be using the next toy in the thick shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Just looking at a welcome addition to the safe - some people spend heaps on motocross and other pursuits, I wouldn't be the only one here who likes to carry a shooting stick that they enjoy shooting as well.
Which rifle are you looking at getting ?
Some are a little short in the magazine length.
I am waiting for sneeze to offer me his Cooper in .280 Ack for cheap of course😆
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There was a Kimber Mountain Ascent on the other forum I had a think about, and it planted the seed: it's not so much the rifle as the calibre I'm looking at (nothing decided).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
I may have one available in the next few weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickoli
Will keep an eye out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Kimber or a custom? The Kimbers tend to have shorter Magazine capacity, fair point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Wouldn't worry me but would do some.
Kimber Mountain Ascent, having the muzzle rethreaded at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Here’s mine.
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psikolbg4r.jpg
I had it built for an open country rifle as I’ve just moved to Christchurch. Shoots 162 AMAX and 160 Accubonds really well although I haven’t had a chance to stretch its legs yet. Performance wise it’s on par with a friend’s 7mmSAUM but lagging behind the 7mm Rem Mag by a few 100 fps.
The only con I’ve found so far with the 280AI is the Nosler Custom brass is so expensive that while looking for an ejected shell a few weeks ago I missed an opportunity at a second Stag. It was a long walk so I guess it may have been a blessing in disguise.
So, Tikka and you had the barrel fluted or ultralight?
Stug stock?
24" barrel?
Senator stockQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
24' No3 Vulcan barrel
Originally it was a std Tikka 270 but not much left now.
Cost a lot more than I told the Mrs
I like that mate. Very nice.
Bet she does the same with shoes...��Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayden C
It's a fools game to tell the Mrs what something cost.
Two .280AIs have been in the safe for 15 years here, currently 27" and 24". Having accumulated all the expensive necessaries including competition dies I probably won't change next time barrels need to be replaced... but if I could start again I would stick with a standard 280, or better still go with a 30-06. The rounds look good, very good - but other than that IMO there are cases in every direction with better capabilities that require less fuss and/or less cost. That said, I did enjoy scratching that itch for a while there.
For either flavour of .280 do watch the magazine length as KG mentions; ideally you would want up to 89mm to play with the Bergers & Amax hard into the lands. Anything less and you may not have the length for full experimentation, depending on the cut of the throat.
That looks familiar Hayden, must be the one that Abe built you on my old action?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayden C
:-)
Not heard much about Vulcan barrels, assume its doing you well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayden C
They much cheaper than Trueflight?
I love mine, great all round rifle for bush to longer ranges. 18.5inch barrel shots Amax at 2750 easily. One reason I went with it is it's one of the larger calibers you can use a standard suppressor on, and when going light that saves a bit of weight and length to your setup
Thanks for that - good write up:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Puffin
Let me know when you're selling it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Yip that's the one although I'm not sure how you recognize it. Originally I was just going to re barrel it and well.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt2308
Abe did a good job!
It seems to be going alright. It shot two Tahr over the weekend at 384 and 454 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
I went with the Vulcan as a friend of mine has had a few Trueflight barrels that just wouldn't shoot. Not sure what the price difference is.
Nothing wrong with them Vulcans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayden C
I had 2 trueflite 6.5 barrels that didn't shoot and was told to keep firing them till they did shoot.
Left in the lurch as well with no refunds or anything.
Had a Vulcan that shot mint.
They are cheaper but I don't know by how much.
Abe will know.
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Recently built a custom 280AI on a REM700 action, TF UM barrel No3 prifle fluted on a Browns Precision "pounder" stock, Gunworks did the bolt fluting & installed a Timney CE trigger - bare rifle 6lbs.
Shoots 162 AMAX into 0.28 moa groups at 2850 fps .... mild load, can get the speed up to 2950 fps but groups open up. I'll take the 0.28 moa group any day.
I have a few other rifles in my safe but really rate this one and the calibre.
Nosler brass is expensive but you can easily neck up 270 & fire form, or fireform 280 brass.
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Geeze for many years I thought my 280ai was pretty good, now I find out its a cavemans walking stick with a mag that's to short for the 1000s of amax Iv been shooting, needing overpriced dies and is a poor choice with better options in every direction:D
Dave your best bet would be to invest in a cryogenics plant......no guarantees though.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Seen one on trademe. Put it on my watchlist😆Quote:
Originally Posted by sneeze
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Now I remember why I have kept the 280ai all these years,.... dental hygieneQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...ch-17hmr-7943/
Dunno why. You only have 4 teeth😆
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Pros: It'll probably work; much like any other centrefire cartridge
Cons: I'll think you're a clown for not just buying a 7mm rem
yeah but all four are very clean and shiny whiteQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
Gimp+con = pro?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
