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    300 Blackout

    Any thoughts on the 300 AAC / Blackout ammo ?
    I'm looking for a new bush rifle for deer that rarely see's me shoot beyond 100mtr.
    Saw this round today and like to hear some thoughts. Cheers.

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    sub 100 yards for deer the 7.62x39mm will do the job just as well and a heck of a lot cheaper both in rifle price and factory ammo.
    the AAC is the new skid on the jock designed for subsonic with supers as 2nd option......... lets see if it lasts the distance time wise.
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    Doesn't do anything a 308 or 7.62x39 doesn't do already, but for the $800 the Ruger ranch rifles were it didn't matter cos they were cheap enough
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    I love the 300 versatile and a great short distance rifle. Good choice of pills for reloading but still pretty suck in what's stocked in shops for factory options.
    I've gone the reload route and using 110 and 125 gr pills that are more than enough. Smk's most accurate but shite on game as you'd expect but Barnes and hornadys good. At the 125 level the noslers are awesome bang flop projectiles.
    Quiet as with supersonics with a good surpressor sounds like a 22 in the bush which is helpful too.
    Ruger American ranch beds well and is accurate for $ 800 needs a bit of stock stabilisation but cheap enough to do.

    great fun to play with...only issue the bolts on the wrong side for me...lol.

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    Shot 4 dozen deer with my 300 blackout so far and mostly with subsonics. It's only really worth it if you reload with good expanding projectiles.

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    Cheers, I suspected the factory availability and price might be an issue. Does look like a fun change from the 308. Thought it might add a bit more challenge and sport to a day out in the tight stuff.
    Unfortunately lefties don't have great choice with rifle selection, I shoot south paw too.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickcol View Post
    Cheers, I suspected the factory availability and price might be an issue. Does look like a fun change from the 308. Thought it might add a bit more challenge and sport to a day out in the tight stuff.
    Unfortunately lefties don't have great choice with rifle selection, I shoot south paw too.!
    That's what AR15s are for

    If you don't reload and don't want subsonics go 7.62... Otherwise 300 all the way.

    I like both but I would also say that 300 is better in short barrels say sub 16" while 7.62 is better in 16" plus. 300 uses shotgun powder. 7.62 fast rifle powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    sub 100 yards for deer the 7.62x39mm will do the job just as well and a heck of a lot cheaper both in rifle price and factory ammo.
    the AAC is the new skid on the jock designed for subsonic with supers as 2nd option......... lets see if it lasts the distance time wise.
    +1 on the 7.62x39 on an AR platform.
    I have been using mine now for 12 months on goats and deer and it drops everything with authority with Highland factory ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    sub 100 yards for deer the 7.62x39mm will do the job just as well and a heck of a lot cheaper both in rifle price and factory ammo.
    the AAC is the new skid on the jock designed for subsonic with supers as 2nd option......... lets see if it lasts the distance time wise.
    What he said re 7.62x39

    I think it will last @Micky Duck, SOCOM have adopted it and it was designed for their use.

    But time will tell
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    300blk is just Americanised 7.62x39, just much more expensive and with the AR platform in mind. Bit of a fanboy round IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feral View Post
    300blk is just Americanised 7.62x39, just much more expensive and with the AR platform in mind. Bit of a fanboy round IMO.

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    Sorry Feral have to disagree have both and would say they are quite different in many ways. AR15s will actually shoot both quite well but 7.62 is not good with sub rounds in my experience. The rifling twist is too slow and most piston semi autos such as the AK and SKS will not cycle with subs anyway. But yes 300 is stupid expensive if you don't reload but then so are many less common rounds.

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    so if you building from scratch or rebarreling you could just as easy have a faster twist 7.62x39mm ,you could easy as use a .308 cal barrel too.
    I mean isn't that the same as the AR crowd are doing with the .223????? poking fast twist barrel and running heavy pills which really makes it almost a different cartridge...funny thing is they are really just getting a .22 high power savage type result LMFAO.
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    Yes you could use a fast twist 7.62x39 barrel if you can find one. Then if you want it to cycle subs in an AR it needs a short gas system however it still won't work in a piston gun (as far as I know). Also remember 7.62 barrels are .311 cal not .308 also so you really want .311/.312 cal subs (303 projectiles). If you can sort this system 7.62x39 should do it all.

    Whats .22 high power savage

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    Yes you could use a fast twist 7.62x39 barrel if you can find one. Then if you want it to cycle subs in an AR it needs a short gas system however it still won't work in a piston gun (as far as I know). Also remember 7.62 barrels are .311 cal not .308 also so you really want .311/.312 cal subs (303 projectiles). If you can sort this system 7.62x39 should do it all.

    Whats .22 high power savage
    I got a couple of reduced gas bushes made up for my Ruger 30. Equally, you can upsize the bush to have it cycle reduced loads. Older Minis were .308 but newer ones with the marginally thicker barrel (of which there are two types) are .310 so yeah you want the 303 pills.

    But anyway, here we go, down the rabbit hole of suppressed blk vs x39. I have a tub of Trailboss and cast pills which I just haven't been bothered to experiment with yet. 'Silent' semis sound like a cool idea but for me, I'm after meat. The x39 has done plenty of that out to 100m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feral View Post
    I got a couple of reduced gas bushes made up for my Ruger 30. Equally, you can upsize the bush to have it cycle reduced loads. Older Minis were .308 but newer ones with the marginally thicker barrel (of which there are two types) are .310 so yeah you want the 303 pills.

    But anyway, here we go, down the rabbit hole of suppressed blk vs x39. I have a tub of Trailboss and cast pills which I just haven't been bothered to experiment with yet. 'Silent' semis sound like a cool idea but for me, I'm after meat. The x39 has done plenty of that out to 100m.

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    You must let us know how you go. It must be possible to make a piston gun cycle with subs but you would certainly need an adjustable gas system to then shoot supers.

    I use the subs mostly on goats in two farms where they are a little sensitive to noise. Also the goats really have no idea what is going on and their mates in the next valley have even less idea.
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