.338? .358?

Ok so I've got a Belgium Made Browning BLR in .243Attachment 67971

Great little gun fast pointing fast shooting happy days:thumbsup:

But......243:O_O: yes good caliber but for Europe and driven boar she's a no go as to small.

So a rebarrel is in order!

Now for the fun. I love my reloading :D

So what do I pick:(......the magazine fits .308 based rounds.

I've narrowed it down to the above title.

.358 Winchester which was invented in 1955, never really took off for a verity or reasons, but a good round by the looks of it:D

.338 Federal invented in 2006 looks also to be a good round.

Which would you pic OF THESE TWO:XD:.....please discuss :P

That should stop them ok...what weight projectiles are you looking at? The 338 would have reasonable ballistics out to 300m with a lighter bullet.

338 Fed. It's easy.

Looking to do something similar with my Brno 243. I'm gonna go 358 win as it has more surface area than the 338, cheap plinking pills are available in bulk and the 308 will shoot 180-240 grain pills anyway.

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Originally Posted by Shearer

338 Fed. It's easy.

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Why Shearer? I've read that the pills can be a lot harder and don't open out expand at close range.
Driven boar is close!

300_BLK I did not want to go 308....wanted something a little exotic :thumbsup:
So that's why I'm looking at the .358 .338
Anyone know the recoil of the two? 2.8kg rifle there about.

Mystery of the .358 Winchester
I think recoil is embedded in here,you Prolly read it already:)

Go for the 358 Win, I am slightly biased the .358 is the magic calibre for cast bullets every bullet caster in the US of A either has one or wants one, it can shoot 110 grain pistol bullets great for Fox
up to 310 gr cast, the most popular cast bullets is the RCBS 200 grain FP every mould maker has it in their catalogue there is a least one mould maker in the UK so you don't have to set up casting
if you don't want to, cast and jacketed can be shot at the same velocity you can practise with cast and hunt with jacket keeps the price down.

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300_BLK I did not want to go 308....wanted something a little exotic :thumbsup:
So that's why I'm looking at the .358 .338
Anyone know the recoil of the two? 2.8kg rifle there about.

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Same reason I will be going with the 358 over the 338. Marked improvement over the 338 if your not running subs.

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Originally Posted by Sideshow

Why Shearer? I've read that the pills can be a lot harder and don't open out expand at close range.
Driven boar is close!

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All things being equal, a projectile will expand more readily at close range than it will at longer range as it will have a higher velocity.
Quite a range of styles and weights to choose from in .338 here from just this one manufacturer. Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Bullets :: Rifle :: Choose by Caliber :: .338 338 CAL. The FTX would be worth a look at lower velocities.
I don't think there is quite the range in .35 cal.

You say it fits 308 based rds
I know it isn't the choices but is there any reason not to go the obvious and rebarrel to a 308, unless I've missed something?

Hi, if you are based in the uk, I am sure you are aware of the minimum legal speed/ weight/ energy requirements regarding the type of deer your going to take and wether it is in England or Scotland . You have done your home work?

.358 Winchester.
Something different and by all accounts a hard hitter with usable trajectory to 200 yd. in a carbine setup.

Recoil-wise, the Fed has plenty of heave so the 358 version could be unpleasant in a light gun. I reload a Federal for a guy so have shot his a bit.

I had a newer alloy .358 in a blr for quite a while. Barrel contour is heavier than other skinny tube .308 based rounds so be aware that bit of work on the fore-end will be in order including sourcing another barrel band. Good luck with that now Numrich wont ship international. Hell of a good round though - I ended up using the 180gr Speer which is on the low end of the weight for .358 but worked so well on deer and was a real pussy cat recoil wise. Having said that you are not stuffing enough powder in the case to make any of the bullet weights a problem recoil wise really if your sissy pad is squishy enough.

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Hi, if you are based in the uk, I am sure you are aware of the minimum legal speed/ weight/ energy requirements regarding the type of deer your going to take and wether it is in England or Scotland . You have done your home work?

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Don't need it for deer! Have a 7x57 BSA for that work:thumbsup:
jakewire don't want a 308...something more exotic, when I retire I'll buy a 308:o:XD::P:ORLY:

Bundook thanks for that! I'll pick one up from the states when I'm there in September

Be easy to ream the old one out a bit but always nice to have a spare when you start down that track.

Get the .358 win. I'll get one day.

.338 Fed is cool, but the big cal gives you more difference over the .308.

if you want to have something a lot different based on the 08 case i would look for something like this . . . 45 RAPTOR

i would prefer .458 bullets but i could live with .451

.454" cast bullets are available up to 350 grains should flatten any wee beastie in NZ, I have sized .459" cast down to .452" for a couple of dudes with 460 S&W and 450 Bushmaster
they seem to work ok had no angry phone calls, so it would be possible to got to 500 grains if the throat is long enough to handle them

I'm waiting to see if 358 Yeti makes it. It is to 308Win what 300BLK is to 223Rem. 358 in an AR15. http://www.maddogweapons.com/358-yeti.html

223 vs 358Yeti vs 300BLK
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Id go 338 fed personally

I gathered that the BLRs were notoriously difficult to re barrel?

Not to worried about that Bill999 as my gun smith did his apprenticeship with Purdy :thumbsup: you don't go through 10 years with them without learning a trick our two:cool: well I hope:P

Older steel ones like the above (pre 81) no different than a normal rifle. Taking apart the gears and levers bit of a pain but once you have done it one time next time is straight forward.

Newer alloy models bolt locks in the barrel different story all together have to buy new barrel from Browning so might as well buy a new rifle.

Bundook year mine is a 73 made in Belgium:cool:
I'll be hand loading so don't need to worry about the UK legal requirements friwi as I can step around these with bullet choice etc and pic my loads if I so wanted to take deer in the uk.
I'm liking the look of the 225 partitions in .358.
Can't find much research on the .338 in use at close range work on mid size to biggish animals.
Anyone

@338 man

Had a mate with a winchester 88 in 358,nice rifle but had to seat projectiles deep to fit mag which kinda ruled out the heavier slugs,338 is nice too and can buy hot factory ammo from 185gr up.I've used a 35 Whelen for 22yrs and they take some beating with 225gr SGK's.Think if I was going 358 I would look at 200gr Barnes.

Ok Desert rd I'll look into them. Even though I like lead:redbullsmiley:

I know a gent with a 358 kimber, it kicks ass. Being a rebarrel he got it built with a long throat so he can seat those big 200 grain .35 cal bricks way out. Runs a 20 inch barrel and get pretty respectable speeds with RL17 from memory

Just ordered a new ruger 77 in .358 win,
Gun show on this week in Fort Mac, ( Back in Canada for work).
My birthday pressure to myself,
Picking it up Tommorow, when the gun show starts.
Spring bear hunting has open up, might go try and whack one.

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Originally Posted by southernman

Just ordered a new ruger 77 in .358 win,
Gun show on this week in Fort Mac, ( Back in Canada for work).
My birthday pressure to myself,
Picking it up Tommorow, when the gun show starts.
Spring bear hunting has open up, might go try and whack one.

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spent a couple of years in McLeod working with my mate.
a great town that I'm going to head back to soon to catch up with a few people.
where are you working southern man?

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