6.5 options??

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18-12-2011, 07:22 PM
tui_man2

6.5 options??

Hey all

Thought id ask here for something different an few options

I have a rem700 S/A in 243 that i have fiddled an changed a few bits, but after a few shot placements gone wrong through little wrong wind call an close running shots iv lost few animals now an spent my time of looking for them to find them/dead animals not too far from where hit i know this happens but after a little more grunt, have a 7mm so thats got enought but its open rifle

This will also be open/steel gun, im looking at building a 260ai on it?

Other options are.............straight 260
6.5x47
6.5 creedmoor
6.5-284?
6.5x55(AI?)

I have modified my mag to take londer rounds but couldnt be super long match chamber

Any other ideas or input? chuck it in

Cheer Abe
18-12-2011, 07:31 PM
Homer

G'Day Fella's,

Tui-man 2 the short answer is, take your 7mm!

Back to the .243, before I went changing rifles/barrels, I'd get some opinions on the bullets you are currently using and some other options!
I assume you are hunting/shooting Reds?

Hope that helps

Doh!
Homer
18-12-2011, 07:42 PM
Kiwi Greg

308 :grin:
18-12-2011, 07:48 PM
Sidney

If its a Short action I wouldn't bother with a 6.5/284 or 6.5x55 Ackley or standard....
6.5x47
6.5 Creedmore
260 Rem

All good options....

Nice thing about the 6.5x47 is the COAL.... can get nice long pills into a repeater..... less room in a 260rem...
18-12-2011, 07:51 PM
tui_man2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer

G'Day Fella's,

Tui-man 2 the short answer is, take your 7mm!

Back to the .243, before I went changing rifles/barrels, I'd get some opinions on the bullets you are currently using and some other options!
I assume you are hunting/shooting Reds?

Hope that helps

Doh!
Homer

Its barrel life aint that great no that thats the issue, but smashed alot of meat:Psmiley:

Iv tryed 87gr sp (shit), barnes 85gr (worked well) as well as 80gr gmx, an 105gr a-max witch also worked well, have shot goats an tahr 600plus with the a-max
shoot anything reds, tahr cham fallow hogs, its hog an reds i have lost tho

Want to run the 140 a-max/140 burger or 123 a-max an barnes/gmx sub 300

An either 26/28" tube?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

308 :grin:

i did toss that up or 7mm08:meta knight:
18-12-2011, 07:53 PM
tui_man2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney

If its a Short action I wouldn't bother with a 6.5/284 or 6.5x55 Ackley or standard....
6.5x47
6.5 Creedmore
260 Rem

All good options....

Nice thing about the 6.5x47 is the COAL.... can get nice long pills into a repeater..... less room in a 260rem...

I have around 80mm OAL:thumbsup:

An want the 140gr to try go 3k
18-12-2011, 07:55 PM
Wildman

Have a 260 and 6.5x55 both. Both kill well.
18-12-2011, 08:08 PM
Sidney

Now you just getting cranky:grin:

U won't get that with the 6.5x47, Creedmore or standard 260Rem.

U may not get it with 260Ackley unless in a long action. Can't get it in a 6.5x55SE with 24" barrel or less and that needs a long action.
Could get it in a 6.5/284 but more likely in a LA, and most don't like running them that hot.

I am running a 6.5x55BJAI in a long action at 3050 with fireforming loads 24" barrel, expecting 3100-3200 when sorted...with 140 Amax.. but that don't help cause yours is a short action...

¥øu are probably being unreasonable :grin:
18-12-2011, 08:22 PM
tui_man2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney

Now you just getting cranky:grin:

U won't get that with the 6.5x47, Creedmore or standard 260Rem.

U may not get it with 260Ackley unless in a long action. Can't get it in a 6.5x55SE with 24" barrel or less and that needs a long action.
Could get it in a 6.5/284 but more likely in a LA, and most don't like running them that hot.

I am running a 6.5x55BJAI in a long action at 3050 with fireforming loads 24" barrel, expecting 3100-3200 when sorted...with 140 Amax.. but that don't help cause yours is a short action...

¥øu are probably being unreasonable :grin:

never:eyes on fire: haha

im hoping the 26/28" will give it the little extra?

whats you oal on the 6.5x55ai?

im thinking will be 260ai still
18-12-2011, 08:37 PM
Homer

Tui-man2, a fella I know in NZ that is a hunting guide, uses a Rem Mod 7 in .260 with 125grn Nosler B-Tips, as his primary customer loan rifles.
He reckons, that with well placed shots, most things go belly up!!!

Doh!
Homer
18-12-2011, 08:43 PM
Sidney

My COAL for my reamer on the 6.5x55BJAI with the 140 Amax is 75.1mm
COAL in my 6.5x47 with the 123 Amax is 67.36mm

260ai sounds the closest bet with a Short action..
18-12-2011, 09:03 PM
tui_man2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer

Tui-man2, a fella I know in NZ that is a hunting guide, uses a Rem Mod 7 in .260 with 125grn Nosler B-Tips, as his primary customer loan rifles.
He reckons, that with well placed shots, most things go belly up!!!

Doh!
Homer

Thats my problem been my close to farish rifle shots can be hurried at times an not always go in the well placed spot in the heat of the battle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney

My COAL for my reamer on the 6.5x55BJAI with the 140 Amax is 75.1mm
COAL in my 6.5x47 with the 123 Amax is 67.36mm

260ai sounds the closest bet with a Short action..

i have 80mm in my mag box so it would fit an they just eject when unfired.

what speed you get the 123 amax in your 47?
18-12-2011, 10:34 PM
Sidney

Its not so much the max length as it is the angles that are created with the shorter action, the lack of taper on the ackley case and the steeper shoulders... I have great feeding in the finnlight with a long action originally set up for the 6.5x55SE.. not sure that you wouldn't have to do some mods on the SA Rem to get it working....

Still working up loads for the 6.5x47 but Outdoor Lad has 2800-2900 for the 123G Amax out of a 19" barrel with RE15... I have a short barrel on mine as well.
19-12-2011, 01:26 AM
Wirehunt

If your only getting those speeds I wouldn't bother. Better to stick with the 260 or 6.5X55, I've had both doing 120's at a very comfortable 3000. 80mm you would almost fit a 6.5/06 into that.
19-12-2011, 07:03 AM
Terminator

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

308 :grin:

Greg the new pink look is a different look for you???

The plain old 260 is a great work horse and fits the mag easily but the 6.5 284 gets my vote just need a long mag and some gunsmithing
19-12-2011, 07:50 AM
Kiwi Greg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terminator

Greg the new pink look is a different look for you???

The plain old 260 is a great work horse and fits the mag easily but the 6.5 284 gets my vote just need a long mag and some gunsmithing

I'm the guinea pig apparently........they try this stuff on me because they know I can cope....

When they made me pink I couldn't even complain because I had no access to PMs & couldn't post....a ph call & its all sorted :D

Nothing wrong with Pink........
19-12-2011, 12:34 PM
tui_man2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

If your only getting those speeds I wouldn't bother. Better to stick with the 260 or 6.5X55, I've had both doing 120's at a very comfortable 3000. 80mm you would almost fit a 6.5/06 into that.

6.5-06 baldbob has one so i cant/wont copy:D

what can you get the 140gr doing? i wouldnt mind running the 123gr a-max fast
19-12-2011, 01:08 PM
Wirehunt

Haven't tried the 140's get. Only got them for the /06 and still haven't got around to shooting that yet. All I ever run through the 260 is 120's, although there is a packet of 130's for stags sitting there that I might even get around to loading one year.

I doubt I'll ever get 3000 out of the Kimber again as she's went on a diet and lost some weight off the barrel....
24-12-2011, 05:25 PM
Meathunta

Wirehunt is doing better than me with his .260 Rem. The only 120 grain projectiles I can get safely over 3000fps are Barnes TSX (very slippery!) and A-maxes. Others top out about 2950 (22" barrel)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer

Tui-man2, a fella I know in NZ that is a hunting guide, uses a Rem Mod 7 in .260 with 125grn Nosler B-Tips, as his primary customer loan rifles.
He reckons, that with well placed shots, most things go belly up!!!

Doh!
Homer

Homer, I had a few failures with 120 B-Tips and gave up on them. There is no 125 B-Tip (they come in 100 and 120 grains in 6.5mm). There is a 125 partition. Is that what your mate is using? I'm considering using the partition, so would be keen on an informed opinion.
24-12-2011, 07:01 PM
Terminator

I've used alot of 120 B-tips in a 6.5x55 at 2950fps with no problem I've shot everything from reds to goats, where you pushing them faster than 260 speed????
25-12-2011, 12:21 AM
Wirehunt

Tis a damn fine bullet that 120BT. My mainstay for the 260 or any 6.5X55
26-12-2011, 08:03 PM
crnkin

260ai with accubonds.

Do it. Dont be a pussy
26-12-2011, 10:00 PM
tui_man2

Quote:

Originally Posted by crnkin

260ai with accubonds.

Do it. Dont be a pussy

well i have barnes an a-max ready for it:thumbsup: 7mm took down 3 goats up at olds tonight 500m plus even the old boy got one with it so he was happy
22-01-2012, 07:11 PM
tui_man2

well barrel will be here this week maybe.

decided on the 260ai after tossing it all around was 260ai vs 6.5x47 but the 6.5x47 seams to be balls out to keep up with the standard 260

it will be 26" number 4 an 1:8 twist in aim to push the 140 to 3k :OSMILEY:

will be doing a few pictures of the building process etc an post them up in a review as part of the deal so watch this space
22-01-2012, 10:18 PM
Normie

Cool. Looking forward to build and range report.
29-02-2012, 05:57 PM
Plade

If you need a hand with load devt for your 260AI I have a reasonable amount of experience with 140gn VLD's :D so sing out. Cheers
03-03-2012, 01:02 PM
leathel

Quote:

Originally Posted by tui_man2

I have around 80mm OAL:thumbsup:

An want the 140gr to try go 3k

80mm OAL is a lot for a short action..mmm My 6.5x6mmRemAI is 79mm maybee I could use a short action to build a lighter one :D

In my old Mauser action it gets the 140 going over 3K with a 25" tube without to much issue...Be nice to do it in a modern action ... Need to sorce some better brass first...Norma do cases, Must find some :)
04-03-2012, 01:33 PM
tui_man2

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathel

80mm OAL is a lot for a short action..mmm My 6.5x6mmRemAI is 79mm maybee I could use a short action to build a lighter one :D

In my old Mauser action it gets the 140 going over 3K with a 25" tube without to much issue...Be nice to do it in a modern action ... Need to sorce some better brass first...Norma do cases, Must find some :)

its a squeeze at 82mm you have to mill the front an rear a fair bit an to get the bullet to unload if unfirerd is a pain have to pull it back then push it forward again an there not much left of the bolt stop:P but it can go that long.

doing a 7mm wsm at moment that will have long throat for the 180gr so will post photos of the build where is milled etc
05-03-2012, 12:45 PM
leathel

Quote:

Originally Posted by tui_man2

its a squeeze at 82mm you have to mill the front an rear a fair bit an to get the bullet to unload if unfirerd is a pain have to pull it back then push it forward again an there not much left of the bolt stop:P but it can go that long.

doing a 7mm wsm at moment that will have long throat for the 180gr so will post photos of the build where is milled etc

Look forward to the thread... Be a while before I am ready. Got to finish other gear first :)

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