So if i get a 22 and thread it 1/2x28 get a suppressor from a you know what and fit it how will they determine if its got a prohibited part on it just a thought as there will be plenty of suppressors floating around with that thread on them now
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So if i get a 22 and thread it 1/2x28 get a suppressor from a you know what and fit it how will they determine if its got a prohibited part on it just a thought as there will be plenty of suppressors floating around with that thread on them now
The suppressor is only a prohibited part when it is attached to a prohibited firearmQuote:
Originally Posted by northdude
If it was attached to an AR15 lower that has a 22LR upper & a 10 round or less magazine, it is completely legal as it the AR15 lower
If a centrefire upper is attached to that lower it then becomes a prohibited firearm
As far as I could tell it's only prohibited if it COULD ONLY BE USED on a prohibited weapon.
My guess is that the law is intended to encourage people to reuse accessories on permitted firearms partly so they dont have to pay out compensation but mostly so shooters and people dont lose so much due to the prohibition program.
My 223 & 6x45 bolt guns are threaded 1/2x28 and both wear ODL Titanium supressors that were intended to be used on AR15's. These to me are completely legal as they have been re-purposed. Same applies to some optics, if they are used on the currently "allowed" firearms then they are legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by northdude
It has nothing to do with the farkn thread size ffs :O_O:
I suspect that 'legal' with respect to firearms will henceforth be up to police, judges, and OICs based on scared pollies' scared constituents. Let's not forget Nash was worried by a gun he was shown because it 'looked scary' - his exact words.
Did he really say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by sightpicture
He looks pretty fucken scary
The suppressor will not be considered prohibited in that application Northdude.
im curious about this ar lower with a 22lr upper, has it been confirmed by the police?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Yep Arms officer told me a month or two ago, I thought Yeah-NahQuote:
Originally Posted by holdover
Asked him again last week & he still had the same story, can have a free standing pistol grip too, no more E-Cat restrictions
If you were silly enough to put a big mag & or centrefire upper on it you would be in deep trouble
Why yes, yes he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by nevereadyfreddy
Stuff have taken the article down since. Of course.
Yep, and this is the view of Nick Taylor, Lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by holdover
I'm hoping its in his 12,000 commentary on the Arms Act changes that he has produced for COLFO.
Could ream out the bore of an AR15 with a 9mm reamer and make it an AM15 for Armalite Musket 15. Or ASG15.
Use .223 brass for straight walled, long 9mm cases. Not a long-range precision gun but fine for goat mobs, etc.. and no longer a centrefire rifle.
I dont think there is an ounce of consideration for any potential losses we the shooters may face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
If a part is prohibited if it is ONLY suitable for use on a prohibited gun, then that is them bastards trying to weasel out of paying for something.
They would rather we had a drawer full of accessories that are of no use to us than pay us for them.
Always assume the worst from politicians, and you will never be let down.
40mm: you have clarity of vision.
WE have clarity of vision.Quote:
Originally Posted by sightpicture
What we need to do is take over the airwaves and broadcast our side of the story for a few weeks.
Fair is fair.
Gimme access to a freq and I'll vocalize freedom 24/7 :thumbsup:
Have heard the opposite from another arms officer, her words were something along the lines of "if the lower can still accept an AR15 mag then it's a prohibited part no matter what upper it has attached to it" all the dedicated 22lr ar style rifles I have seen on the shelf for sale right now actually have a slightly different mag well that will not accept an ar mag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
And here lays one of the frustrating things before us right now, different arms officers and police in general have differing interpretations of the law and just generally dont have any kind of clarity around what the hell is going on any more than you or I
Jordan who shoots at ASRA is modifying ARs with .22 uppers to account for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
He fills in the slot at the back of the magwell and then removes the corresponding ridge on the Blackdog type mags. Basically they become the S&W style mags and magwell.
So normal AR centrefire mags won't fit the lower.
He also permanently blocks the buffer tube with an alloy plug. No buffer and spring can be inserted and no centrefire BCG can now cycle using that lower.
And that is when it is time to ask the police man or woman to show us their qualifications in legal matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
That sounds all good, but I reckon it would be best to wait until the next volley is fired at us before doing anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
Whats he charging for the service?
didnt say it did but it just so happens ars seem to be the only firearm that come standard with that thread that im aware of so i thought maybe a suppressor with that thread could possibly be considered an ar only part which would be prohibited just asking as the dumb fuks playing law makers wouldnt have a clueQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
Gee and not including firearms owners, arguably the biggest and most experienced, stakeholders in this whole schmozzle, along with a severely limited timeframe wouldn't have anything to do with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Sarcasm font.