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Thread: Anyone keeping M1/M2 carbine?

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    Anyone keeping M1/M2 carbine?

    I've got a present for you if you want it.

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    Iím wondering if people are going to convert their M1 carbine to straight pull too. Welding the gas plug and the 5 rd mag at the very least. Or just give it back and call it a day.

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    I'm keeping mine on C @Walker
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    backup plan sorted, will just wait and see at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    I’m wondering if people are going to convert their M1 carbine to straight pull too. Welding the gas plug and the 5 rd mag at the very least. Or just give it back and call it a day.
    You cannot convert a semi-auto centerfire to be legal, as you would still be in possession of prohibited parts - ie the receiver, bolt etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisW View Post
    You cannot convert a semi-auto centerfire to be legal, as you would still be in possession of prohibited parts - ie the receiver, bolt etc etc.
    Tell me the law on that.
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    Sure, below are the two parts of legislation that are important in this situation.

    2A Meaning of prohibited firearm
    In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires, prohibited firearm—
    (a)means the following firearms:
    --(i) a semi-automatic firearm
    (except a pistol), other than—
    (A)a semi-automatic firearm that is capable of firing only 0.22 calibre or less rimfire cartridges and that has a magazine, whether or not detachable or otherwise externally fed, that is capable of holding no more than 10 cartridges commensurate with that firearm’s chamber size:
    (B) a semi-automatic shotgun with a non-detachable tubular magazine or magazines that are capable of holding no more than 5 cartridges commensurate with that firearm’s chamber size:
    --(ii)a pump-action shotgun that is capable of being used with a detachable magazine:
    --(iii)
    a pump-action shotgun that has a non-detachable tubular magazine or magazines that are capable of holding more than 5 cartridges commensurate with that firearm’s chamber size; and
    (b) includes any other firearm declared by Order in Council made under section 74A to be a prohibited firearm for the purposes of this Act.

    Meaning of prohibited part
    In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires, prohibited part means—
    (a) a part of a prohibited firearm:
    (b) a component that can be applied to enable, or take significant steps towards enabling, a firearm to be fired with, or near to, a semi-automatic or automatic action.

    Firstly, the M1 is a prohibited firearm because its a semi-auto center fire.
    Secondly, all the parts of the M1 carbine are prohibited parts as they are part of a prohibited firearm. The action, trigger bolt etc are all parts of a semi-automatic operating mechanism.

    There is nothing in the legislation that says the part is only prohibited if its installed on a prohibited firearm, thus it doesn't matter where or if the prohibited part is installed.
    If you weld up the gas port etc that does not suddenly make the receiver or other parts not M1 carbine parts. You still are in possession of an M1 carbine receiver, trigger group, bolt etc.

    An accessory - ie suppressor or sights are not part of a prohibited firearm, they are accessories. An accessory is not integral to the assembly or operation of a semi-automatic firearm, like a prohibited part is - action, receiver, upper/lower, bolt, bcg, trigger group, gas block, etc etc does.
    Clarification was provided on this that suppressors etc are not a "part of prohibited firearm" for the above reason.

    Basically, if you block your gas port, you still have yourself an M1 receiver, an M1 barrel, an M1 trigger group etc. Someone making it single shot by blocking the gas port does not change any of this. All those parts are still M1 carbine parts and thus prohibited parts.
    Last edited by ChrisW; 16-04-2019 at 03:39 PM.

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    Are you going thru the stages of getting your C @Beavis? Or already have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post
    Are you going thru the stages of getting your C @Beavis? Or already have it.
    Already have it mate

 

 

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